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07-11-2004, 06:51 PM
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Actually Sweden is the most innovative country in the world when it comes to sports equipment, along with Germany. What you laugh at now as looking inadequate or old fashioned will probably be the accepted best in a couple of years.
safety first for the scandinavians! and expert engineering for the germans...

glad to hear that the group is getting on well... wasn't there a fight last year? I thought O'byrne got into it with someone... ??

I'm not surprised that kostsitsyn looks lazy... if his english is really that bad, he's probably bored out of his mind. Imagine being with a group of guys all your age and hearing "blah blah, blah, blah, blah blahblah blah blah. blah BLAH blahblah..." all day long. I'd probably be in my own little world too. The laziness will probably disappear when he gets a hold of english... if it doesn't then i'll worry. Didn't we hear that same complaint about Perezhogin when he first came over??

I wish I still lived in Montreal... i'm envious of all you guys getting to see the action! Keep the scouting reports coming... the more the merrier!

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Nice reports guys thanks! Good to hear Dagenais is still there working on his skating, not a big fan of his but really respect him for doing that, hope he keeps up the hard work.

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Guys.. can someone tell me where/when the next practices will be held? I'd love to go watch the kids!

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i heard it is 9am to 12am

im going there tomorrow...

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i heard it is 9am to 12am

im going there tomorrow...
Thx.. now, where please?

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I was there on ther on the second practice (saturday morning) and i was there at 8 45 so i went in the arena at the same time that trevor timmins went in......a GREAT guy. I congratulated him about the last few drafts:

this is the conversation we had:

Gui: Congratulation on this year draft!
TT: You were happy?
Gui: Yes i actually clapped alone in my basement !!!
TT: Great. Who were you rooting for?
Gui: Wasnt Wolski bigger than Chipchura?
TT: Yeah but Wolski is so soft , Chip was the guy we wanted all long
Gui: What about Shremp? I wanted him badlly.
TT: We hated him.
Gui: Thanks and good luck.

Trevor Timmins is a great guy and if you see him in the development camp, go talk to him , you wont reg ret it.........

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I was there on ther on the second practice (saturday morning) and i was there at 8 45 so i went in the arena at the same time that trevor timmins went in......a GREAT guy. I congratulated him about the last few drafts:

this is the conversation we had:

Gui: Congratulation on this year draft!
TT: You were happy?
Gui: Yes i actually clapped alone in my basement !!!
TT: Great. Who were you rooting for?
Gui: Wasnt Wolski bigger than Chipchura?
TT: Yeah but Wolski is so soft , Chip was the guy we wanted all long
Gui: What about Shremp? I wanted him badlly.
TT: We hated him.
Gui: Thanks and good luck.

Trevor Timmins is a great guy and if you see him in the development camp, go talk to him , you wont reg ret it.........
If you wrote it in this post, then why did you make a whole new thread?

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If you wrote it in this post, then why did you make a whole new thread?
Come on leave the guy alone, it's interesting matter. It's not like this board is overflowing with activity anyway.

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Archer and O'Bryne are so dominate because most of the prospects are undersized from the Q league.
Even the supposed big tough guy Bonneau is helpless and is getting his ass handed to him by these monsters from the West.
These guys are men among boys.
Even Kats is being crushed by these guys.
Now if only Timmins would have drafted a few forwards of the same ilk as these two guys instead of wasting pics on useless small players.
I also find it very odd that Trevor Timmin's would say the reason Woloski was not drafted was because he is soft,howver did he not only last year draft the same type of player in Cory Urquart??


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Archer and O'Bryne are so dominate because most of the prospects are undersized from the Q league.
Even the supposed big tough guy Bonneau is helpless and is getting his ass handed to him by these monsters from the West.
These guys are men among boys.
Even Kats is being crushed by these guys.
Now if only Timmins would have drafted a few forwards of the same ilk as these two guys instead of wasting pics on useless small players.
I also find it very odd that Trevor Timmin's would say the reason Woloski was not drafted was because he is soft,howver did he not only last year draft the same type of player in Cory Urquart??
Actually, I would suggest that Archer, O'Bryne and Korpikari are dominant because they have NHL ready size already, but most importantly they are strong on their skates. You can be big and still be easy to push of your skates (see earlier reports about Bonneau). One was drafted from the BCHL, one from the OHL and one from Finland. Hardly emperical evidence that there is a region that produces better big players.

As for strictly drafting from the "West" just for size, we kind of lived through that nightmare in the 90's, when our beer reps were in charge and we ended up with more early round duds than most of us ever want to remember. I don't want to go there again.

I like TT's drafting philosophy. He goes after skating, hockey sense and work ethic. A nice combo, and if you can find that in a big, mean frame...even better. Gainey's influence in this year's draft is also evident as we are also adding some grit, without sacrificing those three other criteria.

A team strictly full of big palookas who can't skate would not be fun to watch, and Lord Stanley would be staying away for a long time. Similarly, a team of undersized dipsy-doodlers with no jam would not last long in the Eastern conference playoffs.

It is clear that a nice balance is needed, and as I look over our long list of prospects and the players that Gainey is adding like Begin etc., I see that balance starting to unfold for the Habs.

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I also find it very odd that Trevor Timmin's would say the reason Woloski was not drafted was because he is soft,howver did he not only last year draft the same type of player in Cory Urquart??
To take any one single pick in a draft out of context and extrapolate conclusion about how TT drafts seems rather unsupportable to me. If we look back at the 2003 draft, TT picked three players from the PEI Rocket that draft. One was Uruqhart, a gifted offensive player who was known for not being physical, Lapierre, a feisty two-way centreman who was known for his tenacious forecheck and work ethic, and Bing-Bang-Bonneau, the team fighter who led his team in penalty minutes. And that is just three picks of 11 that draft, a group that also included Monster O'Bryne and tough Korpikari. I don't see a trend towards soft players, but then I am looking beyond one single pick.

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Come on leave the guy alone, it's interesting matter. It's not like this board is overflowing with activity anyway.
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I also find it very odd that Trevor Timmin's would say the reason Woloski was not drafted was because he is soft,howver did he not only last year draft the same type of player in Cory Urquart??

I was also thinking of how much Urquhart resembles Wolski, both tremendously gifted players with very similar frames, yet soft as butter. Just goes to show how much weaker this year's draft was, when Wolski *falls* to 21st in 2004 and Urquhart goes 40th overall the year before.

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Archer and O'Bryne are so dominate because most of the prospects are undersized from the Q league.
Even the supposed big tough guy Bonneau is helpless and is getting his ass handed to him by these monsters from the West.
These guys are men among boys.
Even Kats is being crushed by these guys.
Now if only Timmins would have drafted a few forwards of the same ilk as these two guys instead of wasting pics on useless small players.
I also find it very odd that Trevor Timmin's would say the reason Woloski was not drafted was because he is soft,howver did he not only last year draft the same type of player in Cory Urquart??

Fan, you vaguely "sound" like the infamous Stan Taras, from another forum, where size is all that matters. did you take a look at the top 10 scorers in the NHL last season?

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