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11-17-2008, 09:48 PM
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Try AK46 on the point

Please do. He's got a sick shot and vision. It's time to give him more responsability. He's done it everywhere in his career and has always been dominant at the point on the power play.

And don't scratch the idea after one bad shift. Give him 5 or 6 games. At this point it cannot hurt.

Tanguay - Koivu - Kovalev
Markov - A.Kostitsyn

2nd unit play whoever is having a good game. Hamrlik on the point, with Brisebois or Sergei Kostitsyn.

Do it.

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It's worth a shot, although it might leave the door open for shorties. Why not just call up Weber and bench Brisebois instead? When Komi comes back, then O'Brutal can sit.

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11-17-2008, 09:51 PM
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I'm open to anything that gets Markov back on his left point.

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why not call up weber, he must be an improvement over brisebois

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But Carbo doesn't agree. Sorry to burst your bubble.

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best pointmen IMO are Markov-Tanguay / Hammer-Kovalev...that way Kovy plays 2 minutes on PP, which is what this team needs.

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11-17-2008, 09:59 PM
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Carbo will never go for it, but hell yes I'd try it.

Tanguay-Markov pointman combo was a dud.

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11-17-2008, 10:00 PM
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Andrei? On the point? On the right? With Carbonneau?

Not happening.

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11-17-2008, 10:00 PM
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Carbo will never go for it, but hell yes I'd try it.

Tanguay-Markov pointman combo was a dud.
Never say never.. after all he surprised everyone by putting Kovalev with Koivu and Tanguay....

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11-17-2008, 10:23 PM
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Never say never.. after all he surprised everyone by putting Kovalev with Koivu and Tanguay....
And putting Kosto with Plek/Higgy

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11-17-2008, 10:33 PM
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And putting Kosto with Plek/Higgy
I'm trying to repress memory, please don't remind me.

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11-17-2008, 10:38 PM
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why not call up weber, he must be an improvement over brisebois
because the player on the right point needs to be a left handed shot

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11-17-2008, 10:39 PM
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because the player on the right point needs to be a left handed shot
The hell are you talking about.

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11-17-2008, 10:41 PM
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The hell are you talking about.
one-timers

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11-17-2008, 10:46 PM
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Right, cuz the Point man is only getting feed by the Left D, not by Kovy.

A Right-hand Point man has advantages as well, ask the SJS.

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Andrei Kostitsyn ? big no !

Sergei Kostitsyn ? big yes ! .

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I wouldn't put him on the point but I'd have him high with the pointmen in an umbrella. Play it like a stationary 3 on 2 to break down the PK forwards and set up for one timers.

But that's Kovalev's spot. So it would have to be the 2nd unit.

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11-17-2008, 11:17 PM
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Right, cuz the Point man is only getting feed by the Left D, not by Kovy.

A Right-hand Point man has advantages as well, ask the SJS.
But the right d-man is being fed by kovy from the half boards and he is usually along the boards himself. Not many one-timer opportuniteies there. Last 2 years when we had the #1 PP there was Streit (hard LH shooter) and Souray (hard LH shooter) The way Montreal sets up their PP it works best if the man on the right point is a hard LH shooter. Sergei doesn't work there since he doesn't have that hard of a shot. Same goes for Tanguay. Andrei on the other hand has a hard shot. His defensive ability is the question mark there.

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11-17-2008, 11:25 PM
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But the right d-man is being fed by kovy from the half boards and he is usually along the boards himself. Not many one-timer opportuniteies there. Last 2 years when we had the #1 PP there was Streit (hard LH shooter) and Souray (hard LH shooter) The way Montreal sets up their PP it works best if the man on the right point is a hard LH shooter. Sergei doesn't work there since he doesn't have that hard of a shot. Same goes for Tanguay. Andrei on the other hand has a hard shot. His defensive ability is the question mark there.
But the right-hand Point man can make quicker and more accurate passes to the left-side than a lefty.

You're aware that Sergei won the OHL hardest shot award 2 years ago? He has a shot as hard if not harder than Streit's.

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11-17-2008, 11:27 PM
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Defensive ability, is that a joke? Streit and Souray were succesful in that spot, and they were far from defensive stalwarts.

AK46 can more than hold his own for a couple of minutes on D a night on the power play, I'm sure.

It's time for AK46 to become the main forward on this club. It has happen.

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11-17-2008, 11:30 PM
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But the right-hand Point man can make quicker and more accurate passes to the left-side than a lefty.

You're aware that Sergei won the OHL hardest shot award 2 years ago? He has a shot as hard if not harder than Streit's.
A RH shot on the right point means no one-timers....pretty much ever. Markov being LH on the left point never uses one-timers and his bread & butter is those cross ice passes to Kovalev & sneaking in backdoor and tapping the puck in. You put a RH shot on the right point and that gives the opposition one less thing to worry about. A LH shot there makes it much more multi-faceted and versatile and keeps the opposition on their toes.

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11-18-2008, 12:43 AM
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best pointmen IMO are Markov-Tanguay / Hammer-Kovalev...that way Kovy plays 2 minutes on PP, which is what this team needs.
This is a pretty decent idea IMO...more Kovy PP but an evolved role....makes it harder to figure Kovy on the PP out, and probably will give him a bigger repetoire.

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11-18-2008, 01:06 AM
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A RH shot on the right point means no one-timers....pretty much ever. Markov being LH on the left point never uses one-timers and his bread & butter is those cross ice passes to Kovalev & sneaking in backdoor and tapping the puck in. You put a RH shot on the right point and that gives the opposition one less thing to worry about. A LH shot there makes it much more multi-faceted and versatile and keeps the opposition on their toes.
Dude. Ever heard about opportunity cost? Google it up.

If you sacrifice the one-timer, you gain more passing options, which is the strength of this team. And, you'll get one-timers from either, players in the slot or high in the O zone (where Kovy used to score on his one-timers so often) or if the player in the right corridor (Kovy), send it back to you.

Either way, I saw Weber doing a few one-timers from passes by Markov or Hammer, so I bet he can take some from the PPQ too!

I don't even know why I'm arguing with you, I want Andrei or Sergei on the point more than a righty at this point in time. Keep kovalev on the right side, it's his spot.

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