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11-24-2008, 02:28 PM
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Toronto wins this going away. If Coliacovo ever plays 70 games, then St Louis wins (but that's never going to happen).

You get a top six forward for a bottom pairing D when healthy and a 3rd liner checker with limited offensive output.

I still dont get the fascination with Steen. I always wondered what is it about this guy that Leaf fans love. Is it his name or his dwindling stats?

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11-24-2008, 02:30 PM
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all 3 players needed a change, should workout for both teams.

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11-24-2008, 02:31 PM
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Toronto wins this going away. If Coliacovo ever plays 70 games, then St Louis wins (but that's never going to happen).

You get a top six forward for a bottom pairing D when healthy and a 3rd liner checker with limited offensive output.

I still dont get the fascination with Steen. I always wondered what is it about this guy that Leaf fans love. Is it his name or his dwindling stats?
he's had two 40 pts seasons in 3 years in the NHL.. ppl could ask us the same with Higgins who has broken 40 pts only once.

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11-24-2008, 02:32 PM
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Some might still see Steen as a Perezhogin...He was suppose to be all that offensively.

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Toronto wins this going away. If Coliacovo ever plays 70 games, then St Louis wins (but that's never going to happen).

You get a top six forward for a bottom pairing D when healthy and a 3rd liner checker with limited offensive output.


I still dont get the fascination with Steen. I always wondered what is it about this guy that Leaf fans love. Is it his name or his dwindling stats?
Yup....that is exactly how I see it.

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11-24-2008, 02:55 PM
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Steen will likely be put in a more offensive role in St Louis. I've always liked Colaiacovo but he really suffers from the injury bug. He'll add some depth to Blues defense as a puck moving defenceman.

Stempniak could get close to 60 points, has one more year left in his contract and will have a salary of $3.5 million next year.

On the surface, this could be a good trade for both teams. I do find it odd that the Leafs, in "rebuilding" phase, add Stempniak's salary for one more season before Burke is in place as GM. Usually teams in similar situations opt to subtract salary. Maybe they think they can make the playoffs?

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11-24-2008, 02:58 PM
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i remember when Colaiacovo tried to nail koivu on boards and ended up hurting himself.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR966TzRT7I


You can see Paul maurice smirking a little and i lol'd at that one.

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11-24-2008, 03:02 PM
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I do find it odd that the Leafs, in "rebuilding" phase, add Stempniak's salary for one more season before Burke is in place as GM. Usually teams in similar situations opt to subtract salary. Maybe they think they can make the playoffs?
Stempniaks cap hit is $2.5M this year, and Steen's and Coli combined were $3.1, so they did reduce the cap hit for this year, in a round about way.

I still agree it seems a bit odd. Especially the timing of it.

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11-24-2008, 03:48 PM
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I think St Louis win this trade. Steen is a great player and has a lot of upside...I think he will explode now. Cola is always hurt but still, he has a lot of talent and you never know with guys like that. Stempniak is good, and Toronto certainly gets a good player back, but I prefer the players St Louis got, personally.
To me this deal hinges on Cola's health issues. If he can stay healthy, St.Louis wins this deal. If not, Toronto wins in a cake walk.

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11-24-2008, 03:56 PM
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If Stempniak is a UFA after next year, St.Louis wins. Steen has a reasonable contract and I think a change of scenery could help him. The gamble on Colaiacovo is very minimal, if it works out they could win big...I would laugh if he became a very dependable d-man.

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11-24-2008, 05:13 PM
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Remember the Steen vs. Higgins days? I don't really know what's happened to Steen lately, if it's just utilisation or if he has hit some kind of permanent plateau. But I really thought he'd be better than this. I think he has still retained the defensive side of his game, he looks good on the PK. Where did the offense go/why didn't it come? I don't know. But if he finds the right chemistry with Berglund or somebody in St.Louis, and if he gets to within shouting distance of Stempniak's pointage, the Blues will win this deal. Dunno if that will happen.

I guess that's what makes it such a cool deal... we so rarely see straight up deals like that anymore that aren't based on the salary cap, or free agent sell-offs, or moving out disgruntled players, etc.

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11-24-2008, 06:23 PM
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Love how all the media are claiming the Leafs made such a brilliant trade, when nobody has played a single game yet for either team.

LOL. How about the press wait a few months before telling us how brilliant the Leafs are?

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11-24-2008, 06:29 PM
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lets just get Kovalchuk already. I'm tired of waiting.

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11-24-2008, 07:39 PM
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Remember the Steen vs. Higgins days? I don't really know what's happened to Steen lately, if it's just utilisation or if he has hit some kind of permanent plateau. But I really thought he'd be better than this. I think he has still retained the defensive side of his game, he looks good on the PK. Where did the offense go/why didn't it come? I don't know. But if he finds the right chemistry with Berglund or somebody in St.Louis, and if he gets to within shouting distance of Stempniak's pointage, the Blues will win this deal. Dunno if that will happen.

I guess that's what makes it such a cool deal... we so rarely see straight up deals like that anymore that aren't based on the salary cap, or free agent sell-offs, or moving out disgruntled players, etc.
I'm not sure what's happening to Higgins neither. If you take away the three goal night, there's not a lot there this year.

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11-24-2008, 08:20 PM
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I'm not sure what's happening to Higgins neither. If you take away the three goal night, there's nothing this year.
fixed it for you.

I'm starting to give up on Higgins

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11-24-2008, 09:40 PM
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I guess St. Louis wants Tavares more than Toronto.
No, they're leaving him for Ottawa.

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