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11-24-2008, 03:24 PM
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Interresting Eric Engel Article

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?blogger_id=82


The overall article is good, but my main point is the following part

-In the last week I've heard two iconic, English media figures, in Mike Boone and Mitch Melnick, call for the eventual retirement of Saku Koivu's number. One can only hope that by the time he hangs up his skates, he'll have a Stanley Cup ring with the Canadiens, because that's all it would take for the honor to be bestowed upon him. He will surpass Lach, and Naslund, and finish in the top ten scorers of the franchise's history. But, what all Koivu fans have come to appreciate is how he continues to be the sparkplug for this Montreal team, as Dennis Wideman can attest to after being plowed by the small Finn, in the third period of Saturday's game.


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A cup will be needed for that to happen.

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cup will definitely be required. if he wins conn smythe then i think its guaranteed.

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I still think more needs to be done on the ice for his number to go up there. I'm very open to the idea tough. Let just say that for now he's Ring of Honour material with the potential for more.

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This topic always seems to pop up...

Anyway, Koivu is one of my favorite players of all time but he'd have to do a Hell of a lot between now and retirement to get his number retired.

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He needs a cup and a Conn Smyth, or two cups.

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A cup miniumum probably. Anything more and it's a sure thing. Assuming he stays here and is captain till he retires.

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If he doesn't win a Cup, it doesn't happen.

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I'm a huge Koivu fan and love what he has done for the team...and hope he finishes his career here and wins a cup...but I don't see his number being retired unless he has a huge FINNish to his career.

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I would be thrilled if this honour was ever bestowed upon Koivu.

It would be a very emotional night and it would be great see this honour go to someone who is an amazing person and not just some a$$hole who is arguably the best to ever play his position.

Koivu will never measure up to Patrick Roy in terms of accolades or statistical records, but he personifies the qualities that should be synonomous with Montreal legends: class, grit, grace, dedication, and perserverance.

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The overall article is good, but my main point is the following part

-In the last week I've heard two iconic, English media figures, in Mike Boone and Mitch Melnick, call for the eventual retirement of Saku Koivu's number. One can only hope that by the time he hangs up his skates, he'll have a Stanley Cup ring with the Canadiens, because that's all it would take for the honor to be bestowed upon him. He will surpass Lach, and Naslund, and finish in the top ten scorers of the franchise's history. But, what all Koivu fans have come to appreciate is how he continues to be the sparkplug for this Montreal team, as Dennis Wideman can attest to after being plowed by the small Finn, in the third period of Saturday's game.


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Of all the numbers of retired players hanging in the Bell Centre rafters how many of those numbers have 0 Stanley cups?

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Of all the numbers of retired players hanging in the Bell Centre rafters how many of those numbers have 0 Stanley cups?
you quote something and you obviously didnt read it

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unless we honour him like the leafs do with their players without retiring his number

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I still think more needs to be done on the ice for his number to go up there. I'm very open to the idea tough. Let just say that for now he's Ring of Honour material with the potential for more.
i agree with you ; he's more Ring of Honour material .

i don't know if it was posted ; from http://habsinsideout.com/main/11461 ;



The Hockey News is out this fall with Habs Heroes: The Greatest Canadiens Ever From 1 to 100, by Ken Campbell (Transcontinental Books).

Check out Campbell's list, and feel free to agree... or not.


1. Maurice Richard
2. Jean Béliveau
3. Doug Harvey
4. Guy Lafleur
5. Howie Morenz
6. Jacques Plante
7. Larry Robinson
8. Patrick Roy
9. Henri Richard
10. Newsy Lalonde
11. Dickie Moore
12. Serge Savard
13. Bernie Geoffrion
14. Ken Dryden
15. Yvan Cournoyer
16. Bill Durnan
17. Elmer Lach
18. Aurel Joliat
19. Bob Gainey
20. Jacques Lemaire
21. Guy Lapointe
22. Toe Blake
23. Georges Vézina
24. Jacques Laperrière
25. Emile (Butch) Bouchard
26. Steve Shutt
27. J.C.Tremblay
28. Frank Mahovlich
29. Didier Pitre
30. Ken Reardon
31. Peter Mahovlich
32. Guy Carbonneau
33. John Ferguson
34. George Hainsworth
35. Sylvio Mantha
36. Mats Naslund
37. Bert Olmstead
38. Tom Johnson
39. Claude Provost
40. Chris Chelios
41. Saku Koivu
42. Gilles Tremblay
43. Ralph Backstrom
44. Doug Jarvis
45. Gump Worsley
46. Bobby Rousseau
47. Doug Risebrough
48. Stéphane Richer
49. Dick Duff
50. Gerry McNeil

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A cup will be needed for that to happen.
Im not too sure.

If he does indeed retire after 2-3 years with us still, cup or not, I'm sure he'll see his Jersey up there eventually.

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you quote something and you obviously didnt read it
Pierre Ghautier. ?(not my typo )

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Hmm, on today's show Melnick said, and I agree, that we've probably seen the last retired jersey ceremony in our lifetime, or let's say 30 years.

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i agree with you ; he's more Ring of Honour material .

i don't know if it was posted ; from http://habsinsideout.com/main/11461 ;

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Hmm, on today's show Melnick said, and I agree, that we've probably seen the last retired jersey ceremony in our lifetime, or let's say 30 years.
I still think that Koivu has a 50-50 chance at this point. Standards change. Name one number that had been retired before Roy that had half a career with the Habs and left in such bad terms, and who's number was already retired by another organization?

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I still think that Koivu has a 50-50 chance at this point. Standards change. Name one number that had been retired before Roy that had half a career with the Habs and left in such bad terms, and who's number was already retired by another organization?
I don't think 'deserves' has anything to do with it though, I get the feeling that they've decided that they're done.

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I don't think 'deserves' has anything to do with it though, I get the feeling that they've decided that they're done.
I'm just saying let's say Koivu plays another 3-4 years, retires as a Hab, they wait another five years. I think the organization might be tempted in retiring the number just because these as much marketing events. I'm not sure that a Stanley Cup is a necessity.

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