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11-25-2008, 01:55 AM
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Shootout Coach?

Simply put, how many times have we got into a shootout, 9 or 10 so far? A little better preparation for a shootout would be nice. I'm not suggesting a shootout coach but maybe a lil more focus on it because, would be nice that with all the skilled players and the goalie we have, we could take advantage. It's an extra point, edmonton went pretty well last season and it almost got them a playoff spot.

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11-25-2008, 01:58 AM
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8 and were 4-4

you dont practice shootouts. its 50-50 chance every single time.
its like flipping a coin

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11-25-2008, 05:09 AM
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8 and were 4-4

you dont practice shootouts. its 50-50 chance every single time.
its like flipping a coin
You can practice moves dont be ridiculous. Maybe if Kovalev had a few different moves he wouldn't be useless in a shootout. He always tries the same backhand move or he just tries what Koivu did before him. It's getting old this guy should be unstoppable with his accuracy and stick handling.

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11-25-2008, 07:47 AM
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Look at Tanguay, so many moves And weird ones.

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D-Men coach first thank you....

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8 and were 4-4

you dont practice shootouts.
its 50-50 chance every single time.
its like flipping a coin
...actually a lot of teams practice shootouts as their last exercise/drill...

shootout coach is a bit of a stretch imo...

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11-25-2008, 08:36 AM
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8 and were 4-4

you dont practice shootouts. its 50-50 chance every single time.
its like flipping a coin
If you actually shoot ya...pathetic the last 2 shootouts.

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You can practice moves dont be ridiculous. Maybe if Kovalev had a few different moves he wouldn't be useless in a shootout. He always tries the same backhand move or he just tries what Koivu did before him. It's getting old this guy should be unstoppable with his accuracy and stick handling.
You don't spend 30min of the practice on something you're not supposed to reach.
There's so many other things that we should be working on, and that are more important, mainly our PP/PK.

As for Kovy's move, it provided us a W last time, so it's normal that he tries the same thing.

Crosby is arguably the best stickhandler and he's 0/4 this season, he was 2/7 last season.
Malkin was 0/5 last year and 2/5 this year.
Ovechkin 1/6 and 0/2 now.

These guys are the cream of the crop and they don't even have good records in SO..

It's not as easy as it looks.

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11-25-2008, 09:30 AM
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Coming in fast with a wrist shot is the way to go. This works so many times on the SO, just stick with something simple instead of flashy.

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do SO coaches even exist? what is he going to teach them that they haven't learned in the 20+ yrs they've been playing? how to shoot? how to deke? those things are all ingrained in them already, and they go on feel a lot too at the time.

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I laughed at 2 things in this practice.

Shootout coach? Wtf?

And you guys act like habs dont practice shootout. Every team does, it's part of the game. I heard most team practice once or twice per week at the end of practice and i doubt habs decide not to practice it for no reason especially when you go so often.

There's prolly as many players less dangerous then Ruutu 5 on 5 as there's more dangerous then him in the shootout. He was like 5 on 7 in Vancouver 2-3 years ago while Naslund was 0 in 6.

Shootout, you have it or you dont.

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11-25-2008, 10:38 AM
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do SO coaches even exist?
I love how people don't even think of that before posting these kinds of threads. I've never heard of a shootout coach. Ridiculous.

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11-25-2008, 10:51 AM
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Shoot outs are like a coin flip indeed. It's almost random and luck related - there was the Sens player I think that scored one on Price hitting the post first... Then when Kovalev missed against Boston - you could see that the puck going 1-2 inches outside of the post. They all know how to do it - sometimes you are lucky sometimes you are not.

As a sidenote. In soccer, there are tons of cases where the MVP of one team is the one that misses the most important penalty kick of his career. See Ronaldo at the Champion cup final or Roberto Baggio at the World cup Final in the 94 (I think). It has little to do with the individual value of the player or his training.

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I've heard the notion of a shootout coach before, just i haven't heard of a team that's done it. Either way, I didn't necessarily mean a shootout coach, but maybe a coach taking responsibility for the shootout. It's more important than it looks. Yes, it was said you don't practice for something you shouldn't be reaching. Yes, fine, practicing what to do after 65 minutes is odd, i get it. You shouldn't be on the PK either, but it happens, penalties happen, OT happens. Personally, I'm shocked that last year and this year koivu actually scores with the same move every time. Even markov, he's got 1 move. Last year andrei did backhand to forehand a million times. They don't need to practice how to handle a puck(mind you kovalev does anyway and he's argueably the best at it). Of course they know how to shoot but the opportunity for them to try and practice more creative things helps. Not to mention, in preparation for a match, a coach knowing in depth the weakness of an opposing goalie helps. Yes, they know, they do their homework, I'm not niave, but how much they spend on it is a different story. PPs or PKs can be non-factors in a game, but a SO is final, there's no second chance, extra time on the clock, thats it. That alone can always cost a point or gain one.

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11-25-2008, 04:26 PM
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8 and were 4-4

you dont practice shootouts. its 50-50 chance every single time.
its like flipping a coin
its more than that....PRO teams actually study video on goaltenders, with their tendencies and how they react to different situations, players coming in slowly, with speed, towards the side, middle, shoot high, low, 5 hole, etc... etc...

having said that, yeah its 50-50

just go in and rip it top titty....

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11-25-2008, 04:29 PM
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do SO coaches even exist? what is he going to teach them that they haven't learned in the 20+ yrs they've been playing? how to shoot? how to deke? those things are all ingrained in them already, and they go on feel a lot too at the time.
reminds me of football

head coach
defensive coordinator
offensive coordinator
quarterbacks coach
linebackers coach
offensive line coach
defensive line coach
special teams coach
kickers coach
video coach down on the field
video coach up in the booth

my favorite of all time - - - > WIDE RECEIVERS COACH LMFAO

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reminds me of football

head coach
defensive coordinator
offensive coordinator
quarterbacks coach
linebackers coach
offensive line coach
defensive line coach
special teams coach
kickers coach
video coach down on the field
video coach up in the booth

my favorite of all time - - - > WIDE RECEIVERS COACH LMFAO
Ya because patterns aren't complicated? You know they have routes WR has two choices of where to go, so he needs to learn the other teams defensive. That's why they have a coach

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