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11-28-2008, 06:24 AM
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Mark Streit

Here is our much needed #4 defenseman that we are looking for. We let him walk away. He's going to the all-stars game. Book it. Should have signed him long term, 3,4 or 5 milions. I don't care. Book it. Gainey

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11-28-2008, 06:36 AM
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Here is our much needed #4 defenseman that we are looking for. We let him walk away. He's going to the all-stars game. Book it. Should have signed him long term, 3,4 or 5 milions. I don't care. Book it. Gainey

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Streit for the Norris!

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11-28-2008, 07:17 AM
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I'm not going to lie.. I miss Streit and this was one of Gainey's bad decisions not to re-sign him. The guy had everything we could of wanted. He improved each season, he was a team player, he did as asked, he worked hard, he was a leader by example.. he was the perfect teammate. When we let him walk, I was very disappointed. Bad decision by Mr. Gainey.

However, whats in the past is in the past. We have our club. Let's support them.

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11-28-2008, 07:28 AM
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Streit is gone mostly because of the Sundin saga, Bob needed cap space, then he took Lang...

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11-28-2008, 07:32 AM
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Gainey could have had Streit for 2 million per season at one point last year, epic mistake!

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Honestly, who here really thought Streit was worth what he got from the Isles when he signed that contract??

Sure, in hindsight, it looks like we should have kept him, but everyone here was laughing at the Isles for paying so much for who we thought was a product of our great PP. He was in the TSN poll for most overpaid Free Agent signing last summer with Redden, Finger and a couple others.

Can you imagine if the Habs had signed him for $4m+ and he didn't deliver like he had last year?

I'd like to see what your actual comments were when the Isles signed Streit this summer.

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11-28-2008, 07:57 AM
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Streit is missed for sure but he also is gone for alot of reasons, at the end of this season we are going to have 3 defencemen making 15+ millions of cap space add streit in there and your better then 20+ on 4 defencemen.

Not to mention Streit didn't play a ton of defence minus the pp time.

Aswell as previously mentioned Sundin was a factor in all this.

So this is why hes not in a habs uniform, and honnestly Montreal is not winning a ton of games on offence but it will come there have been flashes lately, we are playing amazing in our own end and are missing arguably our best defensive D-man, so figure that one out.

This team is playing well more like a playoff team less like a regular season/ pp specialist.

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11-28-2008, 07:57 AM
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Gosh, people surely have selective memory

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I wouldnt have paid 4M in july last summer even if i thought is D game was a bit underated and that he could become an efficient defensemen.

That said everybody wanted a forward and i thought and still think we are fine back there. Komi has been average so far, O'Byrne isnt as reliable as he was last year and still we've got a better record then we had at the same time last year. Plus with all the offensive d-man we have coming up I'm not sure i want to pay Streit over 4-5 years.

I wouldnt have been thrilled in july last if we signed Streit and kept O'Byrne in the stands and despite his average start the guy still have potential and he'll be ready by playoff time.

Montreal, the only place in the world where it's considered illogcal to improve during the season. Gorges was in the same spot as O'B at the same time of the year last year and this season he might have been our most reliable defencemen. O'B and Gorges have different skillset, but still O'B still has alot of potential and to me there's no doubt he will be one of our 6 best defencemen coming playoff time and that our top 6 will be good as a whole. That said, yes we're lacking of an offensive/puck moving d-man and i dont think any player can step up and be that guy right now.(Aside from Markov) Hamrlik is gotta be safe cause he's always playing with the least defensively responsible defencemen at all time.

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11-28-2008, 08:08 AM
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I'm not going to lie, I miss him too. If only he asked for something around 3 million per year. There was no way we could have re-signed him at the same price as the Islanders.

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What have you done for me lately?

Streit wanted to play on defense anyway. He was NOT a good enough defensman to play five on five on this team. He chose to play elsewhere, what's the damn problem?

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11-28-2008, 08:19 AM
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Here is our much needed #4 defenseman that we are looking for. We let him walk away. He's going to the all-stars game. Book it. Should have signed him long term, 3,4 or 5 milions. I don't care. Book it. Gainey
Had Gainey signed him for a multiple years, 3-4M dollars/year contract, people would have killed him to give so much to a fourth liner and PP specialist. He's not the first player to catch his wind after signing elsewhere, and he won't be the last. Blaming Gainey for this decision is lame; 6 months ago, almost nobody thought Streit should be brought back.

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Had Gainey signed him for a multiple years, 3-4M dollars/year contract, people would have killed him to give so much to a fourth liner and PP specialist. He's not the first player to catch his wind after signing elsewhere, and he won't be the last. Blaming Gainey for this decision is lame; 6 months ago, almost nobody thought Streit should be brought back.
Hindsight is 20/20, and when you think of it he is worth the money. He is the main reason for going from a number 1 pp to one of the worst out there.

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totally ineffective come playoff time.

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totally ineffective come playoff time.
That's what I was going to say. He was probably our worst player out there. He looked like Rivet on the PP. I don't know if he's just not a playoff player, or if he only had a rough time tho. I guess we won't know anytime soon

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What have you done for me lately?

Streit wanted to play on defense anyway. He was NOT a good enough defensman to play five on five on this team. He chose to play elsewhere, what's the damn problem?
Don't you guys realize that Gorges became the d-man he became 'cause we actually have confidence in him? Just go back and see what the Sharks fans thought of him.....frail, not good enough for their squad.....But then it's one of the best trades from Gainey? Same thing for Streit. And I'm just tired how tons of players are so not good enough for our team.....Are we that powerful?

And how the heck did Streit go from not a good enough d-man to pretty reliable? He was a good enough d-man.....some guys here just wanted to take his so-called bad moments and blow them out of proportion, like it was done to Souray, Brisebois and now O'Byrne. Just guess what? O'Byrne played a nice game against Detroit.....then some people will say he didn't cause he was shafted by one of the hottest player in the league. Confidence, that's about all you need at least to prove what your REAL worth is....

And then for whoever keep saying that he was ineffective.....well try to move from forward to d-man during a whole freakin year to see how tough the adaptation could be. Streit knew there was no room for mistake. Try to also play with that in mind.....Gorges looked bad when he also had that in mind....then you have the confidence of your coaching squad and you become pretty good....

And all that being said and knowing how our PP suck since he's gone, and still people don't care if he's gone? And I'm obviously not talking about the salary he's getting right now but what he was asking around Christmas last year....But then I'll guess some will choose to not believe that rumor since it might look like Gainey made a mistake....

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I can't wait for someone to bring up how we traded Doug Harvey... That was Selke, right? No good bum.

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Here is our much needed #4 defenseman that we are looking for. We let him walk away. He's going to the all-stars game. Book it. Should have signed him long term, 3,4 or 5 milions. I don't care. Book it. Gainey
no he is not

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If the Habs WERE in need of a different 4th defencemen, which I don't think they are.....my first choice certainly wouldn't be Mark Streit!!!!

We do miss Streit's presence on the powerplay right now, BUT he is not a good defencemen. He played up front most of the time last season, except for the powerplay and there is a reason for that.....he's not a solid 5 on 5 defencemen. He wasn't re-signed because we couldn't afford to spend big money on a defencemen who only plays defence when there is a powerplay. O'Byrne is a bigger guy, he plays a rougher game and he is a lot cheaper than Streit, he just needs a little time to improve and the only way to do that is to play.

I completely stand behind Gainey's decision to let Streit walk!!!

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I don't understand why people have such a hard time grasping that our top 4 D is: Markov, Gorges, Hammer and Komisarek.

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If the Habs WERE in need of a different 4th defencemen, which I don't think they are.....my first choice certainly wouldn't be Mark Streit!!!!

We do miss Streit's presence on the powerplay right now, BUT he is not a good defencemen. He played up front most of the time last season, except for the powerplay and there is a reason for that.....he's not a solid 5 on 5 defencemen. He wasn't re-signed because we couldn't afford to spend big money on a defencemen who only plays defence when there is a powerplay. O'Byrne is a bigger guy, he plays a rougher game and he is a lot cheaper than Streit, he just needs a little time to improve and the only way to do that is to play.

I completely stand behind Gainey's decision to let Streit walk!!!
I agree

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At Christmas last year, Streit had played half of a very good season, in large part due to our powerplay.

At the same time, Souray was injured in Edmonton but hadn't really impressed since leaving our team, making him look like a product of our power play.

Our powerplay was 1st in the league again. Who was to say that Streit wasn't just another product of our PP? He had some deficiencies on D due to his small stature and was played forward for much of the year.
Even at Christmas, most people didn't want Streit signed to multiple years at $2m (if that rumour was in fact true) as he hadn't really proven anything.

Add this to the fact that Gainey does not sign players midway through the season and I don't see why he would make an exception with Mark Streit.

We lost him, and yes it sucks that our PP hasn't been the same since he left, but that could be attributed to the fact that people have figured out Kovalev as well.

Hindsight is 20/20. I don't remember people screaming for Gainey to sign Streit at $2m last December when the rumour came out.

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Streit wanted to play on defense anyway. He was NOT a good enough defensman to play five on five on this team. He chose to play elsewhere, what's the damn problem?
lol. he clearly should of been used on defense. streit> obyrne boullion brisbois

when was the last time he played d in montreal, besides the pp?

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