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11-28-2008, 09:47 AM
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That is kind of ridiculous point to make seeing that we'll be paying between 3$ and 4$ million per year for a top 4 defencemen that everybody here seems to claim we need. While I don't disagree, I think we could and should have signed Streit...plus he said he never got an offer from Gainey, that he would of signed for a lot less than what the Isles offered him, seeing as he was kind of shocked that the Isles made him such an offer....he wasn't even thinking he could of gotten that much on the market. So in my books, I think Gainey could of signed him for probably between 1.5$ and 2.5$ million, and at that price, I sign Streit any day.

We'd be a better club with Streit in our lineup, I dont think any one can disagree on that.

Lets not forget that Streit is what....31-32? The habs were the first team to give him a chance in the NHL and he appreciated that very much, hence why he probably would have signed any reasonableoffer we gave him.

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Streit is missed for sure but he also is gone for alot of reasons, at the end of this season we are going to have 3 defencemen making 15+ millions of cap space add streit in there and your better then 20+ on 4 defencemen.

Not to mention Streit didn't play a ton of defence minus the pp time.

Aswell as previously mentioned Sundin was a factor in all this.

So this is why hes not in a habs uniform, and honnestly Montreal is not winning a ton of games on offence but it will come there have been flashes lately, we are playing amazing in our own end and are missing arguably our best defensive D-man, so figure that one out.

This team is playing well more like a playoff team less like a regular season/ pp specialist.

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11-28-2008, 09:55 AM
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No joke, blame Mats Sundin, it's his fault.

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could have, would have... most ppl seemed fine last yr when he left.

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Don't you guys realize that Gorges became the d-man he became 'cause we actually have confidence in him? Just go back and see what the Sharks fans thought of him.....frail, not good enough for their squad.....But then it's one of the best trades from Gainey? Same thing for Streit. And I'm just tired how tons of players are so not good enough for our team.....Are we that powerful?

And how the heck did Streit go from not a good enough d-man to pretty reliable? He was a good enough d-man.....some guys here just wanted to take his so-called bad moments and blow them out of proportion, like it was done to Souray, Brisebois and now O'Byrne. Just guess what? O'Byrne played a nice game against Detroit.....then some people will say he didn't cause he was shafted by one of the hottest player in the league. Confidence, that's about all you need at least to prove what your REAL worth is....

And then for whoever keep saying that he was ineffective.....well try to move from forward to d-man during a whole freakin year to see how tough the adaptation could be. Streit knew there was no room for mistake. Try to also play with that in mind.....Gorges looked bad when he also had that in mind....then you have the confidence of your coaching squad and you become pretty good....

And all that being said and knowing how our PP suck since he's gone, and still people don't care if he's gone? And I'm obviously not talking about the salary he's getting right now but what he was asking around Christmas last year....But then I'll guess some will choose to not believe that rumor since it might look like Gainey made a mistake....
Nice post Whitesnake, I agree with everything you have said.

What we need to do now is quit looking in the rear view mirror and start looking ahead. A decision was made with Streit and it can't be changed. Let's support our team now, think about how it could be improved and not bemoan what could have been.

Hopefully these kinds of decisions also serve to help the organization learn how to handle these situations in the future. Just as we hope O'Byrne and others can learn from their mistakes on the ice, we should hope that team management can learn from their mistakes off the ice.

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11-28-2008, 10:34 AM
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That is kind of ridiculous point to make seeing that we'll be paying between 3$ and 4$ million per year for a top 4 defencemen that everybody here seems to claim we need. While I don't disagree, I think we could and should have signed Streit...plus he said he never got an offer from Gainey, that he would of signed for a lot less than what the Isles offered him, seeing as he was kind of shocked that the Isles made him such an offer....he wasn't even thinking he could of gotten that much on the market. So in my books, I think Gainey could of signed him for probably between 1.5$ and 2.5$ million, and at that price, I sign Streit any day.

We'd be a better club with Streit in our lineup, I dont think any one can disagree on that.

Lets not forget that Streit is what....31-32? The habs were the first team to give him a chance in the NHL and he appreciated that very much, hence why he probably would have signed any reasonableoffer we gave him.

If Streit was indeed willing to accept 1.5-2.5 million for 2 years then I think he would have surely been worth it. I used to have "Streit Top 4 For Sure" as my sig and always felt he was a very very valuable player. He was our veritable swiss army knife! But I don't feel that Streit was worth what the Isle paid for him and am glad Gainey didn't try to match any offer like that.

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First off, I don't think the Habs PP isn't good anymore because Streit is gone. Our PP has players who were forces on the the PP that were there before Streit, before Souray and they managed to finish 5th in that category without using these two players. Its an oversimplisitc logic to think Streit gone is the reason for the bad PP. I think it has rather to do with our players not being in synch, not getting the lucky bounces and opposing team being more aware of the Habs' formula. The PP will get better, and has good as it was, without Streit, I have no doubt about it. When you spend two seasons being #1 in that category, you're bound to hit a slump one day or another.

Secondly, I don't think we would be as good at 5-on-5 with Streit in the line-up, as he was our worst player at even strenght last season. Even strenght play is way more important than the PP.

Thirdly, I've always been a big fan of Streit, a big fan of most Habs that are capable of good play, but besides his many good qualities, he did have his shortcomings. No matter what Whitesnake says, saying Streit wasn't good defensively, that he wasn't strong enough on the puck and not strong enough along the boards in the defensive territory, that he was a penalty-taking machine (he should've had almost 5 penalties last monday), is not blowing things out of proportion.

The thing to really consider is that he was not what this team needs. He's a left handed shot and besides the PP, he was not good playing on the opposite side in his own zone. We needed someone more physical and more apt defensively. Developing O'Byrne, to me, is the right solution. They will eventually get the PP going and find someone to replace Streit, its just a matter of molding the player (SKost or AKost or Gorges) who will seem more likely to do the job.

If we had Streit, we wouldn't have Lang. And I'm pretty happy we have Lang instead. A big right-handed centerman who is producing well with the team and offers us three full top lines on offense.

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So many people in this thread (well Puckhead and Otto) have for sure not seen Streit play very often this year.

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11-28-2008, 10:46 AM
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People forget just last spring how he wasn't good enough to play 5 on 5 in the playoffs..and you wanna give him 4 million a years, god!!

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11-28-2008, 10:53 AM
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People forget just last spring how he wasn't good enough to play 5 on 5 in the playoffs..and you wanna give him 4 million a years, god!!
People forget just last spring that A LOT OF players weren't really good 5 on 5 in the playoffs, that some were playing like little girls....should we trade them or let them go as well?

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Here is our much needed #4 defenseman that we are looking for. We let him walk away. He's going to the all-stars game. Book it. Should have signed him long term, 3,4 or 5 milions. I don't care. Book it. Gainey

Last year Carbonneau did not deem him good enough to be top 6 and you want him top 4?

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Here is our much needed #4 defenseman that we are looking for. We let him walk away. He's going to the all-stars game. Book it. Should have signed him long term, 3,4 or 5 milions. I don't care. Book it. Gainey



A 3rd-4th line winger who wanted to play defense does not make 4-5 millions on a good team.

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Streit wasn't a top four dman last year. The fact that he was even considered a dman last year is a JOKE. He played forward!!! Is Tanguay a dman cause he plays the point on the PP. Sergei Kostitsyn a dman cause he plays point on the PP. What was it that made Streit a dman last year?????

The Islanders can have Streit. For the money and term they gave him, it didn't make sense for the habs to even come close to that offer. We would of had close to, or around $20M of cap space used up on 4 dman (if you want to call Streit a dman) next year after Komisarek signed.

Just because players like Streit and Grabovski are putting up numbers so far this season, doesn't mean they would be doing it in Montreal. They wouldn't be receiving anywhere near the same amount of ice time.

Yes Streit is a good PP player. Is it worth $4M a year for a good PP player that isn't particularly great at any other facet of the game??? No.


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That is kind of ridiculous point to make seeing that we'll be paying between 3$ and 4$ million per year for a top 4 defencemen that everybody here seems to claim we need. While I don't disagree, I think we could and should have signed Streit...plus he said he never got an offer from Gainey, that he would of signed for a lot less than what the Isles offered him, seeing as he was kind of shocked that the Isles made him such an offer....he wasn't even thinking he could of gotten that much on the market. So in my books, I think Gainey could of signed him for probably between 1.5$ and 2.5$ million, and at that price, I sign Streit any day.
Um....no. If you recall Gainey had negotiations with Streit's agent. You honestly think Gainey didn't offer him something. I'm sure Gainey went way higher than the numbers you suggest.

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Too expensive, besides, he wanted to play only D. His value was at being versatile and playing D for the PP and for injury. He wanted full time D, we weren't prepared to give it to him. 4 mil for a PP specialist? No thanks.

The Isles PP apparently went up from 29th, to 27th or something. They even added Weight and Okposo is playing his first full year.

We had to let him go, but now we need a replacement, someone to step up, or an adjustment on the PP.

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Streit wasn't a top four dman last year. The fact that he was even considered a dman last year is a JOKE. He played forward!!! Is Tanguay a dman cause he plays the point on the PP. Sergei Kostitsyn a dman cause he plays point on the PP. What was it that made Streit a dman last year?????

The Islanders can have Streit. For the money and term they gave him, it didn't make sense for the habs to even come close to that offer. We would of had close to, or around $20M of cap space used up on 4 dman (if you want to call Streit a dman) next year after Komisarek signed.

Just because players like Streit and Grabovski are putting up numbers so far this season, doesn't mean they would be doing it in Montreal. They wouldn't be receiving anywhere near the same amount of ice time.

Yes Streit is a good PP player. Is it worth $4M a year for a good PP player that isn't particularly great at any other facet of the game??? No.
Darz...it wouldn't be the first time that a coach doesn't have any confidence in a player to then see the said player going elsewhere and be a better player. It's not because Carbo made the mistake to put him there and he was a forward as well? I can call Streit a d-man 'cause that's what he was all of his life, and that's what he's showing he is this year. Anybody who have some time to spare can watch some games he's playing and will see that this guy IS a d-man. Is 4 millions too much? Of course it is. I'M personnally talking about the 2/2.5 he was asking for around Christmas. When Gainey gave Dandenault his 1.7, did he thought that he was giving that to a 4th line forward? How about giving a 2/2.5 to a guy like Streit instead that with a little more confidence, would have shown that he's more than capable to be a #4 d-man/PP specialist.

Again, people are overblowing how bad a d-man he was when he actually wasn't that bad. Carbo didn't like him.....doesn't mean that a coach is always right 'cause if they were, they weren't be fired....

And honestly this whole "He would not have been doing this here" can never be proved. If some people cannot prove that he would be as succesful, how can we prove that he wouldn't be? How do we know that he would not have steal that #4, how do we know that Grabs would not have been able to take Pleks job in the 2nd line? We will never know either way.

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Darz...it wouldn't be the first time that a coach doesn't have any confidence in a player to then see the said player going elsewhere and be a better player. It's not because Carbo made the mistake to put him there and he was a forward as well? I can call Streit a d-man 'cause that's what he was all of his life, and that's what he's showing he is this year. Anybody who have some time to spare can watch some games he's playing and will see that this guy IS a d-man. Is 4 millions too much? Of course it is. I'M personnally talking about the 2/2.5 he was asking for around Christmas. When Gainey gave Dandenault his 1.7, did he thought that he was giving that to a 4th line forward? How about giving a 2/2.5 to a guy like Streit instead that with a little more confidence, would have shown that he's more than capable to be a #4 d-man/PP specialist.

Again, people are overblowing how bad a d-man he was when he actually wasn't that bad. Carbo didn't like him.....doesn't mean that a coach is always right 'cause if they were, they weren't be fired....

And honestly this whole "He would not have been doing this here" can never be proved. If some people cannot prove that he would be as succesful, how can we prove that he wouldn't be? How do we know that he would not have steal that #4, how do we know that Grabs would not have been able to take Pleks job in the 2nd line? We will never know either way.
At the end of the day if you want to blame anybody, blame Crabo...Gainey was not going to give a big contract to a guy his own coach would not use on defense. Getting Tanguay, Streit was out of room up front also.

I think saying that the PP suddenly sucks because Streit is gone is oversimplification.
The Habs have lacked finish for weeks, not only on PP but 5 on 5.

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You take decisions at the moment you take them, with the info you have.

No way was Streit worth a multi year 4M$ contract last summer on the Habs. He was shaky as a defenseman, he was a PP specialist. Had he stayed, he would most probably still be that. The Isles are not the Habs. It was too much money to put on Streit, with Markov and Hammers salaries and Komi hitting free agency this year.

It was the right decision. And I like Streit.

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Darz...it wouldn't be the first time that a coach doesn't have any confidence in a player to then see the said player going elsewhere and be a better player.
Agreed. But it isn't like Streit didn't have any chances in Montreal. He had plenty of ice time as a defenceman during his tenure as a hab, and didn't show the ability to be a top four dman. Granted, I never thought he was horrible as a dman, but.....

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Is 4 millions too much? Of course it is. I'M personnally talking about the 2/2.5 he was asking for around Christmas. When Gainey gave Dandenault his 1.7, did he thought that he was giving that to a 4th line forward? How about giving a 2/2.5 to a guy like Streit instead that with a little more confidence, would have shown that he's more than capable to be a #4 d-man/PP specialist.
1. Yes, in hindsight at Christmas for $2M-$2.5M a year would of been a good deal, but Gainey didn't have that hindsight at his disposal at the time.

2. When Dandenault was signed, the habs didn't have a deep pool of talent, like they do now. Getting a servicable player with experience who could play defence or forward looked like a good idea. If Dandenault was a UFA this past offseason, I doubt Gainey would have offered him anywhere near that kinda money. Also cap space wasn't going to be an issue for the four years Dandenault was signed for.

3. If Streit was 23-24 years old, it would of made alot of sense to sign him thinking with a bit of confidence he could be a #4 guy, but at his age, alot of players don't improve. They plateau or even start on the down swing.



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Again, people are overblowing how bad a d-man he was when he actually wasn't that bad. Carbo didn't like him.....doesn't mean that a coach is always right 'cause if they were, they weren't be fired....
No, I will agree, Streit wasn't horrible as a dman, but giving a guy $4M a year for the third pairing seems a little high. If at any point last year there was a suggestion that the team keep Streit as a dman and move O'Byrne, the fans would have rioted (well the fans here). It's funny how hindsight makes all things so much easier.



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And honestly this whole "He would not have been doing this here" can never be proved. If some people cannot prove that he would be as succesful, how can we prove that he wouldn't be? How do we know that he would not have steal that #4, how do we know that Grabs would not have been able to take Pleks job in the 2nd line? We will never know either way.
I will give you the point about Streit might of, could of, if we kept him, but Grabovski??? No way. A whining, me first type player, who leaves a team to talk to his agent. Winning teams don't usually have these type of players. These type flourish on crappy teams, and are gotten rid of when a team starts climbing the ladder. I hope Burke sign him to a 5 year extension as his first move as GM.

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At the end of the day if you want to blame anybody, blame Crabo...Gainey was not going to give a big contract to a guy his own coach would not use on defense. Getting Tanguay, Streit was out of room up front also.

I think saying that the PP suddenly sucks because Streit is gone is oversimplification.
The Habs have lacked finish for weeks, not only on PP but 5 on 5.
I don't blame Carbo. He didn't do anything wrong. If Streit has had a good 20 game stretch to start this year, great for him, but he didn't show that during his tenure in Montreal. I don't recall one outcry on these boards last year that Carbo should be playing Streit as a top four defenceman.

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I will give you the point about Streit might of, could of, if we kept him, but Grabovski??? No way. A whining, me first type player, who leaves a team to talk to his agent. Winning teams don't usually have these type of players. These type flourish on crappy teams, and are gotten rid of when a team starts climbing the ladder. I hope Burke sign him to a 5 year extension as his first move as GM.

I don't blame Carbo. He didn't do anything wrong. If Streit has had a good 20 game stretch to start this year, great for him, but he didn't show that during his tenure in Montreal. I don't recall one outcry on these boards last year that Carbo should be playing Streit as a top four defenceman.
Good points all around.

It wasn't about having to keep Grabovski. I would have done it 'cause I don't think he had his fair share but my response was not about that. It was about how we should stop saying "They would not have been as succesful here..."

As far as the outcry on these boards, well pretty sure that some people started threads about desperately wanting to keep him AT A REASONABLE PRICE. Obviously 4M isn't reasonable but 2/2.5 was. And even if people didn't want him, well we had to base our opinion on how Carbo was using him and in all honesty, how would we want to keep him on D when, like you said, Carbo wasn't using him? I was in my post blaming Carbo for not giving him enough confidence. And with more confidence, I can bet you that most people here would not have wanted him to go at the right price though once again.

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Does anyone realize that Streit is playing on his natural side when not on the PP with the Isles? Does anyone realize that might be the reason why he looks a bit better on defense? Does anyone realize that he wouldn't be able to take Hamrlik or Markov's place, and he'd still be on the other side if he was top4 in Montreal?

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Does anyone realize that Streit is playing on his natural side when not on the PP with the Isles? Does anyone realize that might be the reason why he looks a bit better on defense? Does anyone realize that he wouldn't be able to take Hamrlik or Markov's place, and he'd still be on the other side if he was top4 in Montreal?
nope, didn't realize that.

Good point though lol.

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Ridiculous, IMO.

This is the same Streit that was used periodically as a forward because he was everyones beetch on D. Weak, soft, small and definitely not a spring chicken at 31.

Gainey was wise to not sign him at those ridiculous dollars.

Also, the guy had 1 measly goal in 11 playoff games...and only 3 assists. He wasn't the key cog on your PP. Our PP will be just fine without him as soon as they start moving the puck faster and stop standing still.

So many posters on this board are bipolar....look at the big picture...Gainey as been our savior and we should take a deep breath and be happy that our Org. is so well lead, organized and deep.

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I'd also add that while I liked Streit, tough decisions have to be made not just for this year but beyond, since we are likely going to be in big trouble this summer in regards to cap space, so had Gainey signed Streit to a big contract for a couple years, we'd have a ton of money locked up in Markov/Hammer/Streit and Komisarek (hopefully locked up before the summer)

That's not even counting the mess at forward with all the UFA's + guys like Pleks, Higgins and others getting a raise and hopefully long term deals.

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In every Islanders game that I've seen so far, Streit's been turned inside out at least once each game.
Today, it's been more like 3 times so far against the Bruins.

I understand he would help the PP, but he wanted to play defense, something that the Habs were not willing to let him do.

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So many people in this thread (well Puckhead and Otto) have for sure not seen Streit play very often this year.

Who cares how Streit is playing this year for the Islanders????

Streit isn't a great defencemen.....thats the bottom line. If he was, Gainey would have signed him in the off-season and he'd still be playing defence for us on the powerplay and trying to play forward the rest of the time.

If he was a good defencemen like Hamrlik is, then Streit would have been signed, but he isn't that good of a defencemen so we let him walk to make cap room and to give O'Byrne a chance to play more.

This has been nothing but a very smart move by Bob Gainey!!!!!

We don't want to be like the Leafs and have $15 million of our salary cap used up by 3 defencemen....one of them being Streit, who can't even provide good solid defence.

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When are people going to understand that at the end of this year, we'll already have 3 long term contracts locked up for the next 4 years (Komisarek, Markov, Hamrlik) and that if you had signed Streit, that would've made it 4.
Now, we have a whole lot of defensive prospects, we need to keep some room for these especially now that Gorges is making a strong case for a long term contract too.

If you have Komisarek, Markov, Hamrlik and Gorges locked up, that doesn't leave much room over the next 3-4-5 years for O'Byrne, McDonagh, Subban, Carle, Webber, Fischer, Belle and maybe Yemelin and Valentenko.

It's a long term decision, period.

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