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11-29-2008, 06:40 PM
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It was a good move. He was the only person not liked in the dressing room and his team mates did not respect him. That's when you deal a player away. That being established, how much can you get for an unproven prospect?? Your high regard for the player's potential isn't enough to land you anything over the top. Yet we still got essentially 2nd and 5th round picks, which in my opinion is not a bad return.

In the a = b = c world of draft picks, you could say Grabovski is worth more than Huet!
I am fine with moving Grabs, the problem lies in where he was moved to. Gainey screwed up moving him to Toronto, you don't hand your direct competition high potential prospects.

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11-29-2008, 06:43 PM
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Burke's full of it.

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11-29-2008, 07:00 PM
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can't believe he would actually admit that..
Ya that seems like a strange thing to admit to, considering how many conspiracy theories with Burke and the Leafs are already floating around.

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11-29-2008, 07:03 PM
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To be fair, that has only happened in one out of two games.
What i mean by "players like Grabs", is basically ex-habs seem to own us. We all knew he had a lot of potential, i just simply would not have traded him to a division rival(and one of our biggest rivals of all time!).

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Grabovski shows character.....that's a little more than A LOT of players on this team.

Burke doesn't really mind europeans....he minds Russians. Grabs is german....

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11-29-2008, 07:43 PM
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Gainey got a 2nd and a prospect, who was picked in the 5th round less than a month before, for a 24 year old former 5th round pick who had 9 points in 27 career NHL games and 74 points in 78 career AHL games. That's amazing.

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Didn't we get greg pateryn who was a 3rd round pick at last years draft and a 2nd rounder??

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11-29-2008, 07:56 PM
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Didn't we get greg pateryn who was a 3rd round pick at last years draft and a 2nd rounder??
No. Pateryn was a 5th round pick from the Leafs. Leafs had 3 5th round picks in a row (128th, 129th and 130th) where they chose Pateryn, Champagne and Flaake.

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11-29-2008, 08:24 PM
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No. Pateryn was a 5th round pick from the Leafs. Leafs had 3 5th round picks in a row (128th, 129th and 130th) where they chose Pateryn, Champagne and Flaake.
ok thx, i couldn't remember when Pateryn was picked, thought he was a 3rd rounder for some reason.

anyway, i'm happy with the trade.

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11-29-2008, 08:54 PM
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Grabovski shows character.....that's a little more than A LOT of players on this team.

Burke doesn't really mind europeans....he minds Russians. Grabs is german....
He showed horrible character last season, though.

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11-29-2008, 08:56 PM
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Dealing Grabs to Toronto was a bad move but many here will tell you Gainey doesn't make bad moves.
Seriously?

Center who didn't make our club regularly and still wouldn't (feel free to point out the roster slot at center he'd be filling right now?) for a 2nd round pick.

Yes, fire Gainey, clearly.

It was a good trade for both clubs. Sometimes guys are ready to move up and the team just doesn't have room. Deals have to be made.

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11-29-2008, 09:06 PM
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It wasnt a bad move. Grabovski did nothing for the Canadiens during his time there. It was better that he was sent to Toronto, now he has the possibility to get good ice time and develop his game.
did nothing ?
did he get a real chance

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11-29-2008, 09:18 PM
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did nothing ?
did he get a real chance
yes he had his chance and chose to be a baby and leave the team.

Bye bye grabs...

I liked him as a prospect, thought he had a good skillset but he is a headcase and had no friends on the team so....

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11-29-2008, 09:35 PM
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did nothing ?
did he get a real chance
Not really, but he's like Ribeiro was. Top 6 or bust. He's useless in a checking role.

If you think we should still have Garabovski, by definition you must then believe that Plekanec or Koivu should have moved. If it's a choice between those three, I'll take Koivu, Plekanec and the 2nd rounder.

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11-29-2008, 09:54 PM
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Burke's full of it.
He also thinks he is the Pope, now that he is running the Vatican...

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11-29-2008, 10:38 PM
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He also thinks he is the Pope, now that he is running the Vatican...
No other team has won as many cups or been so successful as the leafs so show some respect..... geez......

It looks like a shot at the habs though really.

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11-29-2008, 10:45 PM
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No other team has won as many cups or been so successful as the leafs so show some respect..... geez......

It looks like a shot at the habs though really.
I think you're just reading too much into it, to be honest.

I hate the Leafs as much as the next, but let's be honest here. The Leafs are EASILY one of the most famous pro sports teams. He's right. Sure, he didn't mention Montreal, but do we really need Brian Burke to tell us the Habs are just as famous, if not more?

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11-29-2008, 10:48 PM
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As far as I'm concerned Grabs didn't want to play for the Habs anymore. You can ***** and whine about sending him to the Leafs. But when you make a trade, you try to obtain as much as possible in return.

The only way I would be upset is if Gainey turned down a better deal. Since that hasn't been proven, I could care less where Grabs was traded.

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11-29-2008, 10:50 PM
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Why can't you guys comprehend that Grabovski was traded for the exclusive rights to talk to Mats Sundin, 2nd round pick (Robert Lang) and Greg Pateryn.

The deal was in place, we didnt sign Sundin. Grabs was traded at a slight discount for the rights to speak to Sundin.

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11-29-2008, 10:52 PM
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Why can't you guys comprehend that Grabovski was traded for the exclusive rights to talk to Mats Sundin, 2nd round pick (Robert Lang) and Greg Pateryn.

The deal was in place, we didnt sign Sundin. Grabs was traded at a slight discount for the rights to speak to Sundin.
Agreed.

...and even if he wasn't... Jesus, 2nd round pick + prospect for an unproven AHLer with upside who DOES NOT FIT IN THE ROSTER is not bad.

I think Gainey knew he was giving them an NHLer and I think Fletcher knew he was getting one (2nd rounder + prospect).

No one had any illusions, but Montreal cannot keep every single prospect unless we want to promote Hamilton to the NHL.

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11-29-2008, 10:59 PM
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Why can't you guys comprehend that Grabovski was traded for the exclusive rights to talk to Mats Sundin, 2nd round pick (Robert Lang) and Greg Pateryn.

The deal was in place, we didnt sign Sundin. Grabs was traded at a slight discount for the rights to speak to Sundin.
Actually from what I've been told, they were two separate deals. If we were able to sign Sundin, we would have given up Grabs.

But since we weren't able to, Fletcher was still interested in Grabs. So the deal we did end up doing was put into place.

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11-29-2008, 11:02 PM
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Actually from what I've been told, they were two separate deals. If we were able to sign Sundin, we would have given up Grabs.

But since we weren't able to, Fletcher was still interested in Grabs. So the deal we did end up doing was put into place.
That's what I meant though. Don't you think since we didn't sign Sundin, but we still got the rights, Fletcher got Grabs at a bit more of a discount than any other bidding parties?

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11-29-2008, 11:09 PM
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That's what I meant though. Don't you think since we didn't sign Sundin, but we still got the rights, Fletcher got Grabs at a bit more of a discount than any other bidding parties?
Yes, but I was just being a smart ass and pointing out that it was 2 separate deals..and not just one.

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I am fine with moving Grabs, the problem lies in where he was moved to. Gainey screwed up moving him to Toronto, you don't hand your direct competition high potential prospects.
OneSharpMarble?

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I thought Grabovski was gonna be a Datsyuk? No?

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11-30-2008, 01:17 AM
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I thought Grabovski was gonna be a Datsyuk? No?
Ignorance at it's best.

Yeah what was I thinking, a rookie in his first season with more goals than anyone on our team couldn't possibly have any sort potential. That guy is garbage.

Watch some hockey

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