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11-29-2008, 11:32 PM
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Now I know why you're so offended by the proposal! You think the Habs would be trading Plekanec for calamari! Squid!

Jesus. And to think I insulted your intelligence on the matter.
Oh nice, I wasn't expecting that.

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11-29-2008, 11:46 PM
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New proposal.

Steve Begin for Mike Richards.

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11-30-2008, 12:03 AM
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New proposal.

Steve Begin for Mike Richards.

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no way.....Begin is a superior hockey player....give your head a shake

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11-30-2008, 12:04 AM
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no way.....Begin is a superior hockey player....give your head a shake
Your right. They should throw in a 2nd.

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11-30-2008, 12:09 AM
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I don't know if any Flame fan can tell us something, but Camalleri was known to be an ass with the Kings. Maybe that's why he's on the trading block?

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11-30-2008, 12:10 AM
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Your right. They should throw in a 2nd.
done deal....do up the papers

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11-30-2008, 12:27 AM
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Camal toe plays mostly wing and is a lot more effective there, Plekanec even when he's not putting up points is excellent on the PK and in his own zone. No way i'd trade him straight up for Cammalleri.

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11-30-2008, 02:06 AM
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I wouldn't do it at this time.

Maybe at the deadline. The value is perfect for a deadline trade.

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11-30-2008, 08:28 AM
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Don't want Cammalleri, especial for Plekanec. We don't need anymore soft wingers. And who would replace Plekanec?

Am I the only one who sees a big opportunity with Pleks? His recent play will bring his value down and if Bob takes advantage of it, we can sign Plekanec relatively cheap.

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11-30-2008, 08:31 AM
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Satellite Hotstove mentioned something about Cammalleri being available. Would you send Plekanec to get him?

Plekanec salary 1.8 this season and then RFA
Cammalleri salary 3.6 this season and then UFA

have to send some salary as well - Dandenault 1.75 this season then UFA

Plek 5'10" 12pts this season; 69pts in 81 GP last year (0.85 ppg)
Camm 5'9" 20pts this season; 47pts in 63 GP last year with the Kings (0.75 ppg)
It's the same as those Bouwmeester proposals for me. A guy like Plekanec who is under control for a couple more years is worth more than a rental player.

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11-30-2008, 08:31 AM
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Tomas Plekanec had the best second half in the NHL last year, and you want to trade him because he is once again average in the first half?

Are you people just really, really slow?

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11-30-2008, 09:05 AM
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Tomas Plekanec had the best second half in the NHL last year, and you want to trade him because he is once again average in the first half?

Are you people just really, really slow?
Stats please.

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11-30-2008, 09:25 AM
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Seems to me whenever a player wears the Habs uniform, his stock goes up like mad.

Or maybe it's just delusional fans not knowing the better of two players.

My points:

a) Sutter will never agree to do this trade
b) Cammalleri will cost us more, and we can't afford that
c) Cammalleri is a beast compared to Plekanec

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11-30-2008, 09:39 AM
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Seems to me whenever a player wears the Habs uniform, his stock goes up like mad.

Or maybe it's just delusional fans not knowing the better of two players.

My points:

a) Sutter will never agree to do this trade
b) Cammalleri will cost us more, and we can't afford that
c) Cammalleri is a beast compared to Plekanec


Plus, as people have said before, if we trade Plekanec, we'll have Koivu/Lapierre/Chipchura down the middle.

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11-30-2008, 09:41 AM
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Tomas Plekanec had the best second half in the NHL last year, and you want to trade him because he is once again average in the first half?

Are you people just really, really slow?
I love the guy but last yr he showed he wasn't a playoff performer. Unless that changes, and I hope it does, he's expandable for something more useful when it matters.

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11-30-2008, 09:44 AM
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Seems to me whenever a player wears the Habs uniform, his stock goes up like mad.

Or maybe it's just delusional fans not knowing the better of two players.

My points:

a) Sutter will never agree to do this trade
b) Cammalleri will cost us more, and we can't afford that
c) Cammalleri is a beast compared to Plekanec
a)Cammalleri is UFA, Plekanec is RFA

b)Cammalleri 07-08 < Plekanec 07-08

c)Cammalleri's defence < Plekanec's defence

d)Cammalleri's attitude < Plekanec's attitude

e)Cammalleri's UFA status < Hossa's UFA status = Value is a lot less than Plekanec

f)Gainey won't do this, Cammalleri is a good player but not that good and do you know hoe many UFA Gainey has already?

...Question for you : Would you trade Higgins for Cammalleri?

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11-30-2008, 09:47 AM
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I love the guy but last yr he showed he wasn't a playoff performer. Unless that changes, and I hope it does, he's expandable for something more useful when it matters.
He still had 9pts in 12 games... why not trade Markov, Higgins, Hamrlik, the Kostitsyns... they had trouble also in the playoffs last year.

If we can get a no1 center who we would have the rights for more than one season, yes I'd consider trading Plekanec (so would Gainey), but for a small 30 goals winger who's UFA at the end of the season... it's not even debatable...

And I'm sure Cammalleri is a beast in the playoffs... what are his stats... oh wait...

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11-30-2008, 09:48 AM
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Plekanec looks like hes related to the Kostitsyns. Only, hes the sister. Cammy is awesome, he is small but has heart and is feisty.

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11-30-2008, 09:54 AM
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Plekanec is a better all-around player than Camalleri, has a better attitude, and the contract contrast makes it a slam dunk that Gainey won't make this foolish trade.

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11-30-2008, 10:56 AM
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I love the guy but last yr he showed he wasn't a playoff performer. Unless that changes, and I hope it does, he's expandable for something more useful when it matters.
You have to agree though that hes still getting his feet wet, these things change he plays with effort and the rest will come most likely.

Writing him off at this point would be hasty and like said already this team isnt playing super terrible and are showing signs of life. We just need to be much more paitent.

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11-30-2008, 12:23 PM
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a)Cammalleri is UFA, Plekanec is RFA

b)Cammalleri 07-08 < Plekanec 07-08

c)Cammalleri's defence < Plekanec's defence

d)Cammalleri's attitude < Plekanec's attitude

e)Cammalleri's UFA status < Hossa's UFA status = Value is a lot less than Plekanec

f)Gainey won't do this, Cammalleri is a good player but not that good and do you know hoe many UFA Gainey has already?

...Question for you : Would you trade Higgins for Cammalleri?
Ok two things, this proposal is heavily favored for the Habs BUT this doesn't mean that I would do it (due to financial reasons).

Now let's get onto things.

Cammalleri is an offensive threat, he is not going to have to be good defensively if we do not use him in defensive plays (i.e PK and such). We have enough good defensive forwards.

He had a 80 points season with the Los Angeles Kings, I can tell you his UFA value is higher then Plekanec that's for sure.

Both player are about the same size, and Cammalleri has 22 points less then Plekanec with 18 less games played in 07-08. He wasn't playing with the top best PP in the league and neither with a "on fire Kovalev".

Cammalleri's attitude is beside the point. Look Ribeiro had an attitude and he kinda turned out to be a great first line center? Deal with the attitude, especially when it's a great player you're talking about.

And now I ask you :

Would you refuse to trade Kovalev for Getzlaf?

And yes, I would give Higgins for Cammalleri, because both players are underachieving and since his first season and lower body injury, Higgins has yet to prove the claim of the great goalscorer that he is. And it solves my problem at center, going down with : Cammalleri, Koivu, Plekanec, Lapierre/Chipchura... not bad. Who is Cammalleri going to eat out? Kovalev's money.

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11-30-2008, 02:19 PM
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Last I checked Cammalleri IS a center with a lot more offensive skills than Plekanec. Look if we still had a shutdown line, I would never do this trade, but we don't. We're suppose to have 4 offensive lines so...

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Do people realize Cammalerri is NOT a centre?

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11-30-2008, 03:09 PM
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Last I checked Cammalleri IS a center with a lot more offensive skills than Plekanec. Look if we still had a shutdown line, I would never do this trade, but we don't. We're suppose to have 4 offensive lines so...

He's not a centre. Have you watched any Flames games this year? He plays the wing.

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11-30-2008, 03:14 PM
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Do people realize Cammalerri is NOT a centre?
No kidding. It's funny when posters lobby for us to trade for a player they've obviously never watched play before. Too many posters confuse their X-Box and Fantasy league with the real thing.

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