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12-03-2008, 10:33 AM
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Would love to see the Stars send Avery to the minors. And not even the AHL, like the ECHL or something. Tell him he will finish out his four year contract in the bush league, and watch him disappear.

I think it would be a great move by the Stars. Positive reaction, showing how classy of an orginization they are, and also, at some point Avery will quit, and they can rid themsleves of his stupid contract.

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12-03-2008, 10:40 AM
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He was not suspended for hurting someone feelings. He was suspended because his comments were sexist, and he did it in public. If he were working for any other company like us ordinary people, and went on the record with racists (as he has before), sexist comments, he would be fired plain and simple. He's been lucky this far. He's not leaving comments on the ice, it's the fact that he waited for camera's and deliberatly did it. It looks bad for the Dallas organization and the HNL. Christ, even his teammates aren't sticking up for him now. No more breaks for him now.

My opinion, he does not belong in the league.

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12-03-2008, 10:50 AM
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This kind of crap is said on the ice all the time. Avery's biggest mistake was saying it on a national news broadcast. If he would have used a little bit of intelligence and said it on the ice. Nothing would have been done about about it.

As for the posters claiming that Avery is misogynistic. I think that would be stretching it a little bit. As I've heard a lot of guys take shots at their ex's. I don't agree with it, but it doesn't automatically label them a woman hater. I would be more inclined to question their maturity level.
I always call my ex "the crazy hoe" and rightly so, and I've called her sloppy seconds to her new BF, yet I never did that on national TV, which is pretty classless.

OT: I forgot to tell you last time as I was quite busy : congrats on getting married bro. Its about time You ain't getting any younger. uhm, do you plan on wearing high heels, I mean, for the folks to actually see you at the ceremony?


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12-03-2008, 10:55 AM
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I always call my ex "the crazy hoe" and rightly so, and I've called her sloppy seconds to her new BF, yet I never did that on national TV, which is pretty classless.

OT: I forgot to tell you last time as I was quite busy : congrats on getting married bro. Its about time You ain't getting any younger.
I agree, if he was going to say something like that. He should have said it to Phaneuf on the ice. Saying it on national tv was just stupid.

Oh and thanks, but I'm not married yet, just engaged. My walk of death won't be happening until next fall. oh you suck.

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12-03-2008, 10:58 AM
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Or they're saying they're not going to let an attention-starved clown distract from their on ice product by making offensive remarks about the loved-ones of their employees.

How does Avery insulting his ex make him exciting? It makes him pathetic.

People just wanted Avery to play yesterday so they could potentially watch something awful happen to him, just like people were all amped up for Steve Moore's first game against Vancouver after the Naslund hit.

And if something bad did happen the same fans would then cry fowl that the NHL doesn't do anything to protect its players. It's the equivalent of people going to races to watch the crashes, and the NHL nipped it in the bud.

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12-03-2008, 11:06 AM
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I can't wait for Coaches Corner on Saturday to see what Don Cherry has to say about this issue. It wouldn't surprise me if he went over the line himself talking about what should happen to Sean.

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This kind of crap is said on the ice all the time. Avery's biggest mistake was saying it on a national news broadcast. If he would have used a little bit of intelligence and said it on the ice. Nothing would have been done about about it.

As for the posters claiming that Avery is misogynistic. I think that would be stretching it a little bit. As I've heard a lot of guys take shots at their ex's. I don't agree with it, but it doesn't automatically label them a woman hater. I would be more inclined to question their maturity level.
You give him too much credit. I don't think he has any intelligence left over after tying his shoes and ordering breakfast in the morning. In french, we have an expression for guys like this : Tête brûlée.

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12-03-2008, 11:07 AM
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Sorry but english is my second language. I actually did a research on "sloppy seconds" because I had no idea what it meant ( I first thought it was refering to Elisha being his second "sloppy" girlfriend).

However, urban dictionary as a much more graphical and pornographic description of what are sloppy seconds and it doesn't refer to the girl but somethign she was "given".

Can someone confirm? because if this is the real intended defination of what he said, he really deserves what he got and this is bad for the NHL image and defending him if this is the real definition of the expression is classless IMO.

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12-03-2008, 11:14 AM
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Sorry but english is my second language. I actually did a research on "sloppy seconds" because I had no idea what it meant ( I first thought it was refering to Elisha being his second "sloppy" girlfriend).

However, urban dictionary as a much more graphical and pornographic description of what are sloppy seconds and it doesn't refer to the girl but somethign she was "given".

Can someone confirm? because if this is the real intended defination of what he said, he really deserves what he got and this is bad for the NHL image and defending him if this is the real definition of the expression is classless IMO.
Yep, urbandictionary has it right.

Classy boy isn't he?

I love Darz's ECHL idea! The boy needs to be humbled.

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Or they're saying they're not going to let an attention-starved clown distract from their on ice product by making offensive remarks about the loved-ones of their employees.

How does Avery insulting his ex make him exciting? It makes him pathetic.

People just wanted Avery to play yesterday so they could potentially watch something awful happen to him, just like people were all amped up for Steve Moore's first game against Vancouver after the Naslund hit.

And if something bad did happen the same fans would then cry fowl that the NHL doesn't do anything to protect its players. It's the equivalent of people going to races to watch the crashes, and the NHL nipped it in the bud.
The important thing is that people would have watched the game(and you are reaching with the Steve Moore bit). And that there's no idea way to assume it wouldn't have been a great game anyway. Hockey is the game with the most potential for conflict over all magor sports yet instead of put emphasis to it, they try to hide it.

The NHL is such a bunch of stock up old ladies. The NBA got successful in the 90s by having innovative marketing and guys that could do what they want as far as dress code. The abrasive personalities were encouraged and there was nothing wrong with guys wanting to be themselves. At the end of the day, the teens were drawn to the product, it was "in" to be associated with the NBA.

As long as the NHL is going to be this stuck up, they won't be able to market their stuff properly and won't get the big deals.

To me Avery is armless. He's not the kind trying to injure guys with his stick. He's just a pest with a big mouth. But at the sight of him the NHL act like the Catholic Church with Rock' N Roll in the 1950s.

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12-03-2008, 11:17 AM
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Conflict in hockey is a good thing. Lecavalier and Iginla going at it during the godamn Stanley Cup final was epic. This was about the game of hockey though. Not about retarded comments by a manchild craving for attention.

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12-03-2008, 11:23 AM
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You give him too much credit. I don't think he has any intelligence left over after tying his shoes and ordering breakfast in the morning. In french, we have an expression for guys like this : Tête brûlée.
lol, I haven't heard that for awhile.

I agree, and I'm not standing up for what he did. Avery has said, (or been rumoured) to have said many other things much worse than this. Normally when he does this, he's smart enough to say it on the ice.

I'm just curious now why he would over step the line this time and say it on national tv?

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The important thing is that people would have watched the game(and you are reaching with the Steve Moore bit). And that there's no idea way to assume it wouldn't have been a great game anyway. Hockey is the game with the most potential for conflict over all magor sports yet instead of put emphasis to it, they try to hide it.

The NHL is such a bunch of stock up old ladies. The NBA got successful in the 90s by having innovative marketing and guys that could do what they want as far as dress code. The abrasive personalities were encouraged and there was nothing wrong with guys wanting to be themselves. At the end of the day, the teens were drawn to the product, it was "in" to be associated with the NBA.

As long as the NHL is going to be this stuck up, they won't be able to market their stuff properly and won't get the big deals.

To me Avery is armless. He's not the kind trying to injure guys with his stick. He's just a pest with a big mouth. But at the sight of him the NHL act like the Catholic Church with Rock' N Roll in the 1950s.
The only people who would have watched the game were hockey fans who would have just watched a different game otherwise if the incident hadn't happened. Non-hockey fans couldn't care less what a 3rd liner has to say unless it can confirm their preconceived notions that the NHL is a joke.

Do you think a family is going to decide to switch over from the basketball game or the football game to watch a hockey game because a guy made offensive comments? If anything they'll shield their kids from this type of crap.

And families are what the NHL is trying to attract. They don't have the luxury of an already established fan-base in the US like the NBA and the NFL, who can afford to fan the flames of controversy to get a few more Nielsen points from rubberneckers. Every incidence of immaturity and violence just makes them look more bush league.

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12-03-2008, 11:30 AM
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lol, I haven't heard that for awhile.

I agree, and I'm not standing up for what he did. Avery has said, (or been rumoured) to have said many other things much worse than this. Normally when he does this, he's smart enough to say it on the ice.

I'm just curious now why he would over step the line this time and say it on national tv?
Immaturity. You can see in his face that he's just looking to say something that, in his mind, is funny, clever, witty, whatever, and shocking. 'Oh I'm in Canada, I need to give these people something to talk about' and then he says the first idiotic thing that pops into his mind (a change from the tumbleweeds). A child.

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Immaturity. You can see in his face that he's just looking to say something that, in his mind, is funny, clever, witty, whatever, and shocking. 'Oh I'm in Canada, I need to give these people something to talk about' and then he says the first idiotic thing that pops into his mind (a change from the tumbleweeds). A child.
Oh no doubt, but what I meant was. If you watch him in interviews, he always says childish, immature things. But he always knows where to draw the line. My curiosity is why he over stepped the line this time?

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Wow this just made my day, awesome lol.

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Oh no doubt, but what I meant was. If you watch him in interviews, he always says childish, immature things. But he always knows where to draw the line. My curiosity is why he over stepped the line this time?
Like Gros Bill said, Avery's not very intelligent. I mean there could be something else between him and Phaneuf that we don't know about, we might learn more in the future like we sometimes do. To me it just seems that he went too far just because he was bound to do it as he's immature and not that smart. It's not like the evil genius had a momentary lapse of reason.

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is it just me... or?

is the media to blame for this story too

they make the league look worse, then avery

you cant tell me comments haven't been recorded in the past that the media didn't publicize to this degree

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the NHL is dumb. that is all.

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I agree, if he was going to say something like that. He should have said it to Phaneuf on the ice. Saying it on national tv was just stupid.

my guess is that besides being brain dead......he does know a scribe will just look at him shocked...while Dion would most likely beat the snot out of him.

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What's the big deal? Ellen Degeneres also sounded pretty annoyed when Anne Heche broke up with her and started dating men.

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Its funny how all the bandwagon hockey analysts are condemning Avery, calling him an Idiot, Stupid.. trashing his character..insulting him..doing the exact same thing that got Avery suspended.

The hypocrisy in the NHL media is sad, and pathetic. They never spoke out this much when Simon got suspended. I just hate the double standard this league has.

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Knowing of Don Cherry, I expect that will be because he is still ranting about it.
Don Cherry was on MTV News today responding to the Avery situation. He said he didn't really want to comment on it, but he did say that it was a shame, that Avery had a lot of talent but that he just wastes it. He then basically clammed up saying he didn't want to get into it.

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