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12-08-2008, 06:32 AM
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As we all know our team is having massive problems right now. We have lost 3 out of our last 4 and in the last 4 games have been outscored 13-4. There is clearly a need for massive change.
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12-08-2008, 06:39 AM
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LOL you're proposing a rebuild?


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12-08-2008, 06:40 AM
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Good posting, nice read.

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12-08-2008, 06:47 AM
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The problem is, probably Gomez, Drury and Redden are untradeable. Any team would be a fool to take on their contracts. It's a big question mark on Rozsival as well with $5 million, but he's probably the easiest to trade.

Having a combined $26 million floating around on the ice sucking, is pretty sad to see.

I think becaus eof his age Gomez is the most tradable.

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12-08-2008, 06:48 AM
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Drury is untouchable! Heart and brains of the franchise. Like it or not!
Trading Drury would mean admitting that last 1 1/2 years we were wrong about the direction of the franchise. Not going to happen.

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12-08-2008, 07:33 AM
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Drury is untouchable! Heart and brains of the franchise. Like it or not!
Trading Drury would mean admitting that last 1 1/2 years we were wrong about the direction of the franchise. Not going to happen.

I dont get this

Would you rather admit you were wrong and make moves to go in a fresh direction that would be for the betterment of the franchise both now and in the future or be stubborn and refuse to admit that things arent working and just plod along as a mediocre team while wasting the talents of a franchise goalie that deserves better?

I have said it numerous times now why does Drury get a free pass? he is hardly ever criticised why? sure he is great on the PK but for **** sake the guy is paid $7m to do a hell of a lot more than just PK and from what i have been watching the past year and a half thats really the only part of his game that is good.

If he has struggled for a year and a half what makes people think that for the remainder of his contract he will be any different? when it comes to leadership i expect him to do it both on the ice and in the locker room, He may be doing it in the locker room he may not but we dont see that and i definitely dont see it on the ice from the standard of his play or his reaction to the way the team is playing, to me he looks like a guy who knows he is playing at a sub-standard level so he cant be on others backs about lifting their game.

I would love nothing more than Drury to pick it up and be the player he was in Buffalo but at what point do you say it just isnt good enough?

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12-08-2008, 07:58 AM
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Drury is untouchable! Heart and brains of the franchise. Like it or not!
Trading Drury would mean admitting that last 1 1/2 years we were wrong about the direction of the franchise. Not going to happen.
in other words were going to continue to suck for at least the next 5-6 years as we wait for these contracts to run up. Then a player like kane will be available but we'll sign Joe Sakic for more than Kane will sign for. The never ending cycle of rangers hockey. It kinda makes you wish we also traded jagr during the great purge so that we would have been so bad those last couple years and picked up star talent through the draft.

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12-08-2008, 08:13 AM
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in other words were going to continue to suck for at least the next 5-6 years as we wait for these contracts to run up. Then a player like kane will be available but we'll sign Joe Sakic for more than Kane will sign for. The never ending cycle of rangers hockey. It kinda makes you wish we also traded jagr during the great purge so that we would have been so bad those last couple years and picked up star talent through the draft.
God Bless Joe if he is still playing in 5 years.

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12-08-2008, 08:56 AM
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Obviously, either Gomez goes, or we get an elite winger. Luckily, we have two defensemen on the inside looking out.

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12-08-2008, 09:17 AM
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Sign Sundin

Trade

Gomez, Prucha,Dawes, Kalinin to Van for Kessler, Bernier,Davison,descent pick

Bring up Potter full time

Then we have

Naslund, Sundin, Drury
Bernier, Dubinsky, Zherdev
Korpikoski, Kessler, Callahan
Sjostrom, Betts, Voros, Orr, Fritsche

Redden , Girardi
Staal, Rozsival
Mara, Potter
Davison

Lundqvist
Valliquette

hmmmmmmmmmmm

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12-08-2008, 09:24 AM
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Gomez, Prucha,Dawes, Kalinin to Van for Kessler, Bernier,Davison,descent pick
Try again.

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12-08-2008, 09:32 AM
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Gomez, Prucha,Dawes, Kalinin to Van for Kessler, Bernier,Davison,descent pick


Is this serious?

Vancouver wont be letting Kesler go anywhere plus i dont think Bernier can be traded because he signed an offer sheet so i think you need to rethink it.

If trading Gomez was an option and it was up to me i would work it round Gomez for Edler + picks

then trade a dman, Rozsival or Redden (Preferably)for what you can get,

Edler would slip into the vacated role of the Dman we lose plus we save cap space as Edler is only making $3.25m for 5yrs,

Sundin takes Gomez role plus we gain picks.

Even at that i dont think the Canucks would be wanting Gomez


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12-08-2008, 09:53 AM
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I like that Vancouver trade a bit. Why wouldn't they want Gomez? You really think the Sedins will resign in Vancouver? Please, if that franchise wants to survive, they need a "star" forward if those two leave.

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12-08-2008, 09:56 AM
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this is what i would do. and i'm ready for a flaming....

trade gomez to either columbus or vancouver....try to get a 1st out of it, i'd settle for a 2nd.
sign sundin
offer roszival, sanguinetti, dubinsky and a 1st to atl for kovalchuk- i'd try to keep dubes and substitute him with anisimov and dawes, but i'm prepared to deal him for ilya

roll these lines


naslund- sundin-zherdev
kovalcuk- dubinsky (if he stays) /drury (if he doesn't)-prucha
korpikoski- drury(or korp in the middle with fritsche on the left)- callahan
sjo-betts-orr (kovalchuk for some double shifts)

redden-girardi
mara-staal
potter-kalinin


LOAD up the first PPU- leave them on the ice for no less than 1:30 on EVERY pp

naslund-sundin-zherdev
redden-kovalcuk


so even if you can't get kovalchuk (or havlat or gaborik who would cost significantly less), you still have a legit first line, something we're missing right now.

i'd also look to move drury in the offseason. bring back sundin to play with naslund through the end of his deal ('10)


thoughts?

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12-08-2008, 10:00 AM
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Go shoot yourself. Gomez for a 2nd? Get some young players and then post your proposal. Geeze.

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I like that Vancouver trade a bit. Why wouldn't they want Gomez? You really think the Sedins will resign in Vancouver? Please, if that franchise wants to survive, they need a "star" forward if those two leave.
I just thought that they may see his cap hit as too high especially as from what i read on these boards the Canucks fans are expecting to go after both Hossa and Gaborik.

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Go shoot yourself. Gomez for a 2nd? Get some young players and then post your proposal. Geeze.
shoot myself?

who in their right mind is going to give up an asset for an albatross contract like gomez's? i'd gladly take the 2nd and run.

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12-08-2008, 10:45 AM
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I actually posted my Rangers-Canucks proposal on the main board to see what feedback i got haha

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I actually posted my Rangers-Canucks proposal on the main board to see what feedback i got haha
you'll get flamed for including edler

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I guess the easiest thing to likely do is just deal Rozsival to a team that needs a offensive Dman.........get a cheaper back end option

Then just sign Sundin............i'm good with that,hah

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Anyone proposing to trade our mother****ing Captain Chris Drury doesn't understand hockey and, honestly, I'm contemplating if you have even ever watched him play Ice Hockey.

The man does so many little things right that I would pay him 7.5 Mill to be our captain and put up 20 points a year.

He saved the Pittsburgh game with his defensive stick.

This isn't NHL 09, people. The better team doesnt win most of the times because they are "supposed" to be "better"... Do I think this team needs some changes? Yes, absolutely. Do we need a purge? No, and anyone that thinks so I will not even awknowledge.

This team is starting to remind me of the USA Basketball teams before this olypmics. I'm starting to side with Inferno, Renney has gotta go. New Coach, new system, new look.

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you'll get flamed for including edler
Yeah i put a the proposal of

Edler + 2nd for Gomez

on the trade rumours board and it didnt really go down well, even though i think that with Gomez's contract thats why you would need to accept less.

Horac basically said terrible both teams dont do that but i have saw some of his trade proposals and they arent any better.

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Yeah i put a the proposal of

Edler + 2nd for Gomez

on the trade rumours board and it didnt really go down well, even though i think that with Gomez's contract thats why you would need to accept less.

Horac basically said terrible both teams dont do that but i have saw some of his trade proposals and they arent any better.
i think you're missing the point. edler is a promising young defenseman. vancouver fans view him similarly to the way that we view staal. they won't be prepared to give him up for an albatross contract.

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i think you're missing the point. edler is a promising young defenseman. vancouver fans view him similarly to the way that we view staal. they won't be prepared to give him up for an albatross contract.
Yeah i do see the point but i was sure he has been struggling this year, maybe i am wrong.

ahh well not really been flamed on here yet so thought the trade rumours board was the way to go

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sign sundin for $5 mill

trade gomer to LA for o'sullivan, priessing and the right to swap 1sts this year

trade/waive fritche and kalinin

gives you something like this up front

naslund-sundin-zherdev
o'sullivan-drury-callahan
voros-dubinsky-prucha
sjo-betts-orr
dawes

preissing on the back end would be a million times better than kalinin and he's an option on the PP to get this piece of crap going. we save a couple of mill going forward as well.

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