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12-11-2008, 12:57 PM
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OT: McKenna: "Kovy's Kids Need to Step Up"

No, Iím not talking about the sick and underprivileged children that Alex Kovalev helps with his remarkable volunteer initiatives. The underachieving kids in the dressing room are the ones fans should be worried about.

http://insidehockey.com/columns/2521

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12-11-2008, 01:04 PM
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Kind of stating the obvious but it's nice to see someone talk about the older young players on the team instead of mentionning S.Kostitsyn and Latendresse as people who need to step up. They do too, but this team can't simply rely on twenty-one years old who aren't Carey Price. Even he should be expected to have off nights though. Those three are very young men. Higgins, A.Kost and Plekanec have to give more to the team. They the ones we're expected to carry the team once Kovalev is gone. Good article.

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12-11-2008, 01:07 PM
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I agree with most of the article however I think Andrei is coming on strong and the concussion slowed him down big time at the star of the year.

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No, Iím not talking about the sick and underprivileged children that Alex Kovalev helps with his remarkable volunteer initiatives. The underachieving kids in the dressing room are the ones fans should be worried about.

http://insidehockey.com/columns/2521
To be honest, a stanley cup they come and go, sick kids, they tend to just go. I'd rather care about the underprivileged kids then the damn underachievers we have who will be traded.

And what's with the kovy blame here? haha dumb article

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I know the guys are playing more consistently. but I miss the ATAK line. So many good memories from last year...

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Kind of stating the obvious
It's clearly not obvious enough. I mean, just read the thread. neofury clearly didn't even read the article

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I find that was a very superficial analyse. It basically looked at the stats from last year and said, "well they aren't producing much this year, so they are regressing." What it fails to note is that the Habs had a rocky start last year as well. In December they turned it around and most of the players produced lots of points after November. I wouldn't be surprised to see the same thing this year as many (AK46, Kovalev, even Plekanec) have been playing much better of late.

I also dislike the "well he's on pace for only 40 odd points etc" logic. You can't take such a small sample as 25ish games and apply it to 82 games simply because a player can go on a cold streak during those 25ish games without having a hot streak.

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Plekanec is the one really worrying me. Most of last year he would go into the corners and fight for pucks, pushing defencemen. Since the playoffs he has avoided confrontation like the plague. It's not just a little slump.

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To be honest, a stanley cup they come and go, sick kids, they tend to just go. I'd rather care about the underprivileged kids then the damn underachievers we have who will be traded.

And what's with the kovy blame here? haha dumb article
Talk about taking things a bit too serious..

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To be honest, a stanley cup they come and go, sick kids, they tend to just go. I'd rather care about the underprivileged kids then the damn underachievers we have who will be traded.

And what's with the kovy blame here? haha dumb article
It's a great article, and you missed the point of it entirely, it's about Higgins, Plekanec, A.Kost & our bad PP moreso than Kovalev himself.

Love how last season was boiled down to its important parts..... good to see someone remembers who things went post Xmas & how that affected our season (and this years expectations!)

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Plekanec is the one really worrying me. Most of last year he would go into the corners and fight for pucks, pushing defencemen. Since the playoffs he has avoided confrontation like the plague. It's not just a little slump.
i hate to say this, but his play is reminding me of torontos blake. soft and staying out of heavy traffice areas. its like hes scared to be out there.

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yeah i wonder whats the matther with plekanec
its probably the "plkanec is gangsta" thread that jinxed him

.. is he still wearing his turttlle neck? maybe that,s it

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i hate to say this, but his play is reminding me of torontos blake. soft and staying out of heavy traffice areas. its like hes scared to be out there.
Blake is 35. His best season came 2years ago.

Plekanec is still a youngster although 26. He has a lot of time ahead of him and he already tied Blake's career year.

I'm not worried about Plek. The season didn't start as planned when he was paired with Kovalev/A.Kost. So now it was up to Carbo to switch things around, I thought he looked pretty good with Tanguay (like everybody else), they had good chances but having Kosto there didn't really help the finish.

I think with Lats/S.Kost he'll do good. He's not a big physical player, so he needs his linemates to do go battle in the corners.

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It's easy to forget that the Habs remarkable 2007-08 regular season run really got underway during their annual and traditionally disastrous Christmas road trip and Ryan O'Byrne's antics following the team's rookie dinner.

is he suggestiing obyrne steal another purse?

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A.K is doing well IMO, coming off strong, giving it his all. Pleks, Higgins need to shape up or ship out. They still have great value, could get us a decent center, however At their Full Potential they would be great, but they just aren't playing. The problem clearly isn't Kovalev, hes a point a game in the last what? 12 games? Sure they aren't goals but he sure as hell knows how to pass the puck at the right time. Kovalev is one of our stars IMO and he will start scoring soon. Higgins and Pleks I can't say the same.

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is he suggestiing obyrne steal another purse?
Dec.29th and 30th the Habs are in Florida and then Tampa,it may very well happen

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Imagine what the media would say if we were doing better than last year, geeshhh.

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i'm sorry, who is connor mckenna and why should i care what he thinks?

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well plecky may not be scoring but it doesnt mean hes trying. Hes having a bad year so what? Hell rebound next year and if he doesnt well, he'll become what he was suppose to be from the start, a third line defensive centerman with a bit of a scoring touch. Ive got no problems with that. Oh btw, connor mckenna is a dude on team 990.

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i'm sorry, who is connor mckenna and why should i care what he thinks?
He's a good kid guys. Doesn't mean you should care what he thinks, but then again why should we care what you think? We do, but why? Maybe because this is a forum for people to express their opinions. Lighten up mikeg!

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12-11-2008, 03:18 PM
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Conor McKenna is a 25 year old kid who got an internship at team 990 or something and gets to write an internet column there. His writing seems to consist of general observations on what fans think + his own opinion on what they should think. I'm sure he'll be able to land a job at the gazette someday as they seem to love that kind of general white noise passing as "hockey analysis", Red Fisher has been pumping out this sort of tripe for 70 years. I've seen much better writing and hockey commentary from anonymous fans here or sites liek habsworld.net.

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Point taken...

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Conor McKenna is a 25 year old kid who got an internship at team 990 or something and gets to write an internet column there. His writing seems to consist of general observations on what fans think + his own opinion on what they should think. I'm sure he'll be able to land a job at the gazette someday as they seem to love that kind of general white noise passing as "hockey analysis", Red Fisher has been pumping out this sort of tripe for 70 years. I've seen much better writing and hockey commentary from anonymous fans here or sites liek habsworld.net.
But let's get back on topic here. I say trade Kovi!

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LOL! Just kidding...

I agree with Conor, the 25-30 year-old players need to step up! Kovi is in a slump but come playoff time you need him on the team!

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i'm sorry, who is connor mckenna and why should i care what he thinks?
He's been involved in local media for around a year. Who are you, effin Red Fisher, you don't talk to rookies ? Why read anything or care what anyone thinks ?

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He's a good kid guys. Doesn't mean you should care what he thinks, but then again why should we care what you think? We do, but why? Maybe because this is a forum for people to express their opinions. Lighten up mikeg!
Isn't his old man, a well known journalist ?

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