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12-14-2008, 04:04 AM
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EDM/NYR idea

Well it is looking more and more like the Rangers want to clear cap room for Sundin. Here is my idea for a deal to help with that.

To NYR: Schremp, Cole and a 2nd

to Edm: Gomez

This frees up 3 million as Schremp is in the minors.

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12-14-2008, 06:55 AM
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Well it is looking more and more like the Rangers want to clear cap room for Sundin. Here is my idea for a deal to help with that.

To NYR: Schremp, Cole and a 2nd

to Edm: Gomez

This frees up 3 million as Schremp is in the minors.
Brutal. Edmonton can't afford Gomez's contract now, and it just looks even worse in the future. Not to mention, we don't really need him. This would completely kill our ability to re-sign any of our young players when the time comes. If, for some reason the Oilers went after Gomez, New York would have to take at least one of Penner or Horcoff back to make it even slightly feasible, and even then I don't really see a reason we'd want to.

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12-14-2008, 07:52 AM
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I would not take Gomez for free. He sucks, and his contract sucks.

Huge NO from the Oilers

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I would not take Gomez for free. He sucks, and his contract sucks.

Huge NO from the Oilers
And the Rangers don't do a Gomez for Cole swap anyway.

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12-14-2008, 09:20 AM
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They would be very foolish not too. Cole's contract ends this year, Gomez who has pretty much the worst contract in the NHL is signed for what another 4?

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12-14-2008, 09:22 AM
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Awful...

Best player wins the deal , contract included and that is By Faaaaaaaaaaaaar

Scott Gomez. You people are nuts.

Gomez sucks?

No one transports the puck the length of the ice better than Scott Gomez. It is a thing of beauty. Unfortunately he than passes it to snake bitten guy A or B

Rangers need, above all else, Mojo

Do you have some Mojo for us...?


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12-14-2008, 09:31 AM
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Well it is looking more and more like the Rangers want to clear cap room for Sundin. Here is my idea for a deal to help with that.

To NYR: Schremp, Cole and a 2nd

to Edm: Gomez

This frees up 3 million as Schremp is in the minors.
No Thanks.Neither guy can do what Gomez can.He is needed in NYR right now.

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Awful...

Best player wins the deal , contract included and that is By Faaaaaaaaaaaaar

Scott Gomez. You people are nuts.

Gomez sucks?

No one transports the puck the length of the ice better than Scott Gomez. It is a thing of beauty. Unfortunately he than passes it to snake bitten guy A or B
Something the Oilers don't need - at all. We need a sniper like Zherdev.

Gomez is on a winning team (top of the Atlantic) and he's a -9? Call me unimpressed. Gomez has an anchor of a contract. 5 more years at $7.3M/yr.


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Something the Oilers don't need - at all. We need a sniper like Zherdev.

Gomez is a on a winning team (top of the Atlantic) and he's a -9? Call me unimpressed. Gomez has an anchor of a contract. 5 more years at $7.3M/yr.

Gomez is a playmaker, not a finisher. Always has always will be. I'm fine with the contract if Sather finds him the right linemates.

He needs a young power forward with some jump and a nose for the net. Ive been waiting for Renny to try Dubinsky on his wing but the Dubi has only played center.

Perhaps if they land Sundin Dubi will go to Gomers wing for a spell....

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As much as I love Gomez, we can't tie up 12.8M in cap hit between him and Horcoff(starting next year) with both Gags and Cogs in the system.

Only way we could trade for Gomez is if Horcoff was part of the deal going back. Which MacT would hate

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Best player wins the deal , contract included and that is By Faaaaaaaaaaaaar

Scott Gomez. You people are nuts.
Well, the trade wouldn't be about "winning the deal" for the Rangers. It would be about clearing cap space to sign Sundin. Not saying NY should do it, but the "best player wins" really doesn't apply here.

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Gomez sucks?
No, he is a very good player. With a very bad contract. The teams that would be willing to take on his cap hit for the next 4 years are few and far between. Teams that would be willing to take on that cap hit and also give something of value are almost non-existant. The value coming back in this particular proposal would be cap room to sign Sundin.

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Do you have some Mojo for us...?
Mojo is currently on the IR, and the Rangers would still have to clear significant salary to sign him

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scotty is over paid by about 3mill a year

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12-14-2008, 11:28 AM
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5 more years at $7.3M/yr one of the worst contracts in the NHL.

He is barely worth 4 a year.

He has negative value. Any team that would trade for him let alone take him for free would be out of there mind.

He would clear waivers for sure, yet other teams are interested in him and would give assets to him? hahaha only in NYRanger fans dreams.

The only way another team would trade for him would be if they gave a similar overpaid, overrated player back.

Something like Ryan Smyth for Gomez might work.

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So... Gomez and whoever we trade and the inability to resign, Smid, Grebeshkov, and one of Gagner or Cogliano.

Sounds like Edmonton wins this.

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People saying that Gomez is a $4 million a year center . Neither team does this like I said, but Gomez doesn't suck like everyone is saying. He is overpayed by about $1.5 million, not 3.

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People saying that Gomez is a $4 million a year center . Neither team does this like I said, but Gomez doesn't suck like everyone is saying. He is overpayed by about $1.5 million, not 3.
I will agree that Gomez doesn't suck. We have the same situation here with Briere, a very nice player who makes about $2M per season too much.

The price tag on Gomez (and Briere for that matter) is not the big problem. The big problem is the length of time players like this are being overpaid for. Other teams just don't want to stomach a cap hit like that for that period of time, let alone throw value back the other way.

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People saying that Gomez is a $4 million a year center . Neither team does this like I said, but Gomez doesn't suck like everyone is saying. He is overpayed by about $1.5 million, not 3.
6 million dollar players do not get only .78 PPG playing 20-25 PRIME minutes on a team that is top of there division and is also a -10 let alone 7.5 ones

Very over payed and very very very overated.

You really think he is worth assets to another team? Really?

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6 million dollar players do not get only .78 PPG playing 20-25 PRIME minutes on a team that is top of there division and is also a -10 let alone 7.5 ones

Very over payed and very very very overated.

You really think he is worth assets to another team? Really?
Do you know who Scott Gomez is? I already said that he was overpayed, but he doesn't suck. He isn't your 80+ points a season guy, but he doesn't suck. He doesn't deserve the $7.357 that he is getting, but that isn't his fault, and you can't say he sucks because of his contract. And yes, I do think he is worth assets to another team, shoot me.

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Do you know who Scott Gomez is? I already said that he was overpayed, but he doesn't suck. He isn't your 80+ points a season guy, but he doesn't suck. He doesn't deserve the $7.357 that he is getting, but that isn't his fault, and you can't say he sucks because of his contract. And yes, I do think he is worth assets to another team, shoot me.
I'm pretty sure the 93 in his name is his birth year and explains a lot.

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Nah, its for Doug Gilmour, try again, Kid.

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Nah, its for Doug Gilmour, try again, Kid.
He doesn't need to try again, because he's right. You've already flat out told us that you know nothing about hockey just by judging a player that you've never seen play not once in your life, because of his contract.

You definitely got left behind when the wagon left town.

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I don't believe the Oilers could do this trade in regards to the cap. Don't think they would even if they had the space. Gomez is a good hockey player, but he's an undersized underperforming playmaker with a 7.5 cap hit. He's the last thing the Oilers need right now.

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The Rangers are not trading Gomez. He's not the problem they need to fix. He's 1 mill overpaid because he was worth the extra mill to the NY Rangers to extract him from the Devils. Thats the story and they'll live with it. He's been a good Ranger on and off the ice. He'll earn every dollar of that contract.

But first Sather needs to get him some help. Someone who can finish those plays

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HELL NO!! from a rangers persepctive....cole has been totally sucking this season and gomez has been one of the better offensive players on this team and he finally has some wingers who can skate with him in naslund and zherdev......thanks but no thanks to edmontons garbage

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He doesn't need to try again, because he's right. You've already flat out told us that you know nothing about hockey just by judging a player that you've never seen play not once in your life, because of his contract.

You definitely got left behind when the wagon left town.
Nope, watched him play tons of times on the Devils before he signed with NY. He is a decent player, but worth around 4.2-4.5

Don't hate because your team has 4 terrible contracts..

Try again, son.

These Ranger homers are funny as hell, now he is one million overpaid? hahhaa

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