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12-14-2008, 08:04 PM
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if ottawa is out of the playoff race and your team needs a shutdown guy for a playoff run, what would you give up?

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12-14-2008, 08:18 PM
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Not much, honestly. He's 30, doesn't put up significant offensive numbers, and is only a 2nd line pair guy (a team worst -12 this season).

Seeing as teams overpay at the deadline, I'd say a 2nd or 3rd round pick along with a prospect.

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12-14-2008, 08:32 PM
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Not much, honestly. He's 30, doesn't put up significant offensive numbers, and is only a 2nd line pair guy (a team worst -12 this season).

Seeing as teams overpay at the deadline, I'd say a 2nd or 3rd round pick along with a prospect.
AHAHHAHAH LMAO. WOW. I hope your joking. Philips is one of the best shutdown Dmen in the League man. He is worth way more than " a 2nd or 3rd round pick along with a prospect" ......... WOW

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Nylander, Lepisto, and a pick?

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Not much, honestly. He's 30, doesn't put up significant offensive numbers, and is only a 2nd line pair guy (a team worst -12 this season).

Seeing as teams overpay at the deadline, I'd say a 2nd or 3rd round pick along with a prospect.
I think that's way off. He's a workhorse defensemen, and one of the better defensive defensemen in the league.

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12-14-2008, 08:41 PM
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AHAHHAHAH LMAO. WOW. I hope your joking. Philips is one of the best shutdown Dmen in the League man. He is worth way more than " a 2nd or 3rd round pick along with a prospect" ......... WOW
Yeah, people keep saying that; mostly fans from Ottawa. No one else considers him that. He's good, but getting older.

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12-14-2008, 09:12 PM
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Yeah, people keep saying that; mostly fans from Ottawa. No one else considers him that. He's good, but getting older.
i hate ott and i think hes a great shut down d

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i hate ott and i think hes a great shut down d
He is good, and I'm not trying to short change the guy, but if they traded him I don't think they'd get alot.

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12-14-2008, 09:17 PM
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he has a NTC and pretty sure he married someone from otown... he aint gonna be moving

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He is good, and I'm not trying to short change the guy, but if they traded him I don't think they'd get alot.
look what they got for adam foot last year a mid 1st and 4th so i think your a little off there

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do you realise your shut down guy has the worst +/- on your team he's a minus 12. I wouldn't compare Phillips with Foote. Not even close to the same player.

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12-14-2008, 09:31 PM
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do you realise your shut down guy has the worst +/- on your team he's a minus 12. I wouldn't compare Phillips with Foote. Not even close to the same player.
look at his +/- from other years +/- is more a reflection on the team not the player =) ex Rod Brind'Amour this year and hes won the troph for best def foreword how many times?
Ex2-according to your logic Steve Montador is the best shutdown D in the game right now...

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12-14-2008, 09:34 PM
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I would offer Grebeshkov and a 2nd rounder for him.

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do you realise your shut down guy has the worst +/- on your team he's a minus 12. I wouldn't compare Phillips with Foote. Not even close to the same player.
That just means he is playing lots of minutes while his team is not scoring.

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12-14-2008, 09:37 PM
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From the Oilers, Grebeshkov and Staios.

Grebeshkov is a very good puck mover who can QB a power play (we already have 3 of these). Staios is Staios--mostly steady, but kind of over paid.

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That just means he is playing lots of minutes while his team is not scoring.
ya he plays against the top lines of every team we face, AND we arent scoring much right now.... so his +/- is pretty much doomed

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12-14-2008, 09:41 PM
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do you realise your shut down guy has the worst +/- on your team he's a minus 12. I wouldn't compare Phillips with Foote. Not even close to the same player.
Tom Preissing was +40 two seasons ago.

+/- is for the most part a team stat.

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I am a Kings fan only and dont know that much about Phillips but I find it funny that people think a 30 year old hockey player is old. 30 years old is just going into their prime.

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12-14-2008, 09:42 PM
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I would think a guy like him would garner a good pick, a good NHL player, and a good prospect from Washington. The Caps have ample good young talent in juniors/college/Europe, good young talent in the AHL, and good young talent just breaking into the NHL. The team's area of greatest need is shutdown veteran defense.

Incidentally, 30 is not old, not for defensemen. It's just about the beginning of a defenseman's prime.

That said, if Phillips truly did hit the open market, he'd generate quite a bit of interest, and not only from playoff contenders. He's not a rental. The obvious limitation would be his NTC, which may mean he has no interest in going anywhere, or may mean he's only interested in calling his spot.

All that said, I don't really think the Senators would trade him.

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12-14-2008, 09:56 PM
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I am a Kings fan only and dont know that much about Phillips but I find it funny that people think a 30 year old hockey player is old. 30 years old is just going into their prime.
A brief history of Phillips. He's a real character guy in the room and on the ice. He used to be a forward and his first couple of seasons as a Sens were as such. Then he moved to defense where his mobility, steadiness and heavy shot made him a fan favourite. Many in Ottawa think he's the reason Chara put up such great numbers as a Sen and why Volchenkov seemingly broke out as his partner. Also Redden went from good Redden to bad Redden after switching from Phillips to Meszaros.

There was a story about him, I can't find it right now, but basically he's had to be a man for a long time with his parents both being handicapped in some way and him having to care for his family. He's really like the Sens older brother character.

He'd easily need a 1st and more with that affordable contract he's on and ability to make his partner a star.

I'd say a 1st, young prospect and a maybe good AHL player for the farm.

Something like a 1st, Stewart/Welch and someone from the AHL for Florida

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12-14-2008, 10:23 PM
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even if we dont make the playoffs, i dont think we would get rid of him, he's probably like alfredsson, a sen for life, but he's worth alot, at 30, still shuting down people like Alexandre Ovechkin, its still impressive...If you look at Sidney Crosby's point of view, he cant ever get through Chris Phillips wich results as why he only has 1 goal again Ottawa in his career.

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even if we dont make the playoffs, i dont think we would get rid of him, he's probably like alfredsson, a sen for life, but he's worth alot, at 30, still shuting down people like Alexandre Ovechkin, its still impressive...If you look at Sidney Crosby's point of view, he cant ever get through Chris Phillips wich results as why he only has 1 goal again Ottawa in his career.
Actually its 1 goal in the regular season against Ottawa, hes scored multiple times against us in the playoffs.

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look at his +/- from other years +/- is more a reflection on the team not the player =) ex Rod Brind'Amour this year and hes won the troph for best def foreword how many times?
Ex2-according to your logic Steve Montador is the best shutdown D in the game right now...
All I'm saying is that the shut down guy shouldn't have the worst +/- on the team. Maybe that assumption is wrong but I don't think so. I'm not saying Phillips is a bad dman but it doesn't look good. As to your comments about Brind'Amour you do realize he's not the player he use to be. He's 38 and his +/- is ridiculous this year on a team where it shouldn't be. I don't know what's happened to him. He'd surely have lost a step by now but those numbers are crazy. He's not even close to the next guy behind him. It's just one of those crazy things I guess.

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12-14-2008, 11:18 PM
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All I'm saying is that the shut down guy shouldn't have the worst +/- on the team. Maybe that assumption is wrong but I don't think so. I'm not saying Phillips is a bad dman but it doesn't look good. As to your comments about Brind'Amour you do realize he's not the player he use to be. He's 38 and his +/- is ridiculous this year on a team where it shouldn't be. I don't know what's happened to him. He'd surely have lost a step by now but those numbers are crazy. He's not even close to the next guy behind him. It's just one of those crazy things I guess.
+- has always been a crazy stat. Way to many variable's at the best of times.

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Cole + Grebeshkov + Nilsson for Phillips + Vermette + Neil + McAmmond

Salaries cancel out. Thoughts?

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