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12-18-2008, 10:19 AM
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Ben Maxwell

To make room for Komisarek and Laraque who are both official for tonight, the Habs have sent back Ben Maxwell to the AHL.

Lines for tonight

A.Kost-Plekanec-Kovalev
Tanguay-Lang-D'Agostini
Latendresse-Lappierre-Kostopoulos
Laraque-Bégin-S.Kost

The obssession with Kostopoulos playing in an offensive is REALLY getting annoying, the guy hasn't scored since the last full moon anc can't make a pass to save his life, it's not his place, especially when we have a player like S.Kost on the team.

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12-18-2008, 10:23 AM
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The obssession with Kostopoulos playing in an offensive is REALLY getting annoying, the guy hasn't scored since the last full moon anc can't make a pass to save his life, it's not his place, especially when we have a player like S.Kost on the team.
He creates a lot of chances.

I like him where he is.

what bugs me is why Lapierre isn't with Bégin... They both were very good together.

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The obssession with Kostopoulos playing in an offensive is REALLY getting annoying, the guy hasn't scored since the last full moon anc can't make a pass to save his life, it's not his place, especially when we have a player like S.Kost on the team.
Well, it's not like Sergei is lighting it up; I'm pretty sure Kostopoulos has scored more recently than Sergei...

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Kosto is Carbos pet. Kosto is a great 4th liner, but that's it...

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what bugs me is why Lapierre isn't with Bégin... They both were very good together.
Simple: they need four centers, so with Maxwell down they need both to play pivot.

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Simple: they need four centers, so with Maxwell down they need both to play pivot.
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To make room for Komisarek and Laraque who are both official for tonight, the Habs have sent back Ben Maxwell to the AHL.

Lines for tonight

A.Kost-Plekanec-Kovalev
Tanguay-Lang-D'Agostini
Latendresse-Lappierre-Kostopoulos
Laraque-Bégin-S.Kost

The obssession with Kostopoulos playing in an offensive is REALLY getting annoying, the guy hasn't scored since the last full moon anc can't make a pass to save his life, it's not his place, especially when we have a player like S.Kost on the team.
I wouldn't really call the 3rd line an *offensive* line with Lapierre as the centre. Sure, they have some minimal offensive potential, but that exact trio has been used as our 4th line both this season and last.

Plus, Sergei has been absolutely horrendous this season (well since the first handful of games) and this coming from one of his biggest fans.

Also, Kostopoulos has production rate that is very similar to that of Sergei Kostitsyn and has scored just one less goal.

Oh and in their last 12 GP.. Kostopoulos has 4 points in comparison to Sergei's 2 points.

And to say that Kostopoulos can't pass, in my opinion, means you don't watch him on the ice. The guy is definitely a good enough offensive player to play on the 3rd line with our club.

Is he a top-9 offensive player on our team? No. Does he deserve to get more minutes than some of the top-9 forwards right now? You're damn right he does!

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Well, it's not like Sergei is lighting it up; I'm pretty sure Kostopoulos has scored more recently than Sergei...

How true, how true, how true, but the news hasn't reached Laval yet.

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How true, how true, how true, but the news hasn't reached Laval yet.
damn I can't wait to buy my condo in Le Plateau and leave Laval!

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I wouldn't really call the 3rd line an *offensive* line with Lapierre as the centre. Sure, they have some minimal offensive potential, but that exact trio has been used as our 4th line both this season and last.

Plus, Sergei has been absolutely horrendous this season (well since the first handful of games) and this coming from one of his biggest fans.

Also, Kostopoulos has production rate that is very similar to that of Sergei Kostitsyn and has scored just one less goal.

And to say that Kostopoulos can't pass, in my opinion, means you don't watch him on the ice. The guy is definitely a good enough offensive player to play on the 3rd line with our club.

Is he a top-9 offensive player on our team? No. Does he deserve to get more minutes than some of the top-9 forwards right now? You're damn right he does!
No he doesn't, it's not his place and he shoudn't play there. When is the last time that a Kostopoulos, Dandenault or Laraque on a top line ever worked? It never did! I'm probably Georges Laraque's greatest fan, but even i know he is not the player that will get Sergei going again, he needs to play with offensive forwards, not goons. What Carbo fails to understand is that when good coaches put 4th line players on good lines when nothing is going on the ice and you need to pull out a new trick, but when you put 4th line players on a top 3 line every single game, there's no more message going on, just a coach who can't make lines right. In a way, our own coach is holding the team back.

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12-18-2008, 10:37 AM
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No he doesn't, it's not his place and he shoudn't play there. When is the last time that a Kostopoulos, Dandenault or Laraque on a top line ever worked? It never did! I'm probably Georges Laraque's greatest fan, but even i know he is not the player that will get Sergei going again, he needs to play with offensive forwards, not goons. What Carbo fails to understand is that when good coaches put 4th line players on good lines when nothing is going on the ice and you need to pull out a new trick, but when you put 4th line players on a top 3 line every single game, there's no more message going on, just a coach who can't make lines right. In a way, our own coach is holding the team back.
meh, comparing Laraque and Kosto is so wrong. Laraque is a fighter, that's it.

Kostopoulous is a less talented Scott Walker. He deserves a spot in our third line.

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meh, comparing Laraque and Kosto is so wrong. Laraque is a fighter, that's it.

Kostopoulous is a less talented Scott Walker. He deserves a spot in our third line.
and sice when do less talented Scott Walker's desirve to be on an offensive line for long strech of time?

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and sice when do less talented Scott Walker's desirve to be on an offensive line for long strech of time?
because he is still effective in what he is doing... creating a lotsa chances and driving the net.

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because he is still effective in what he is doing... creating a lotsa chances and driving the net.
Not so many lately

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because he is still effective in what he is doing... creating a lotsa chances and driving the net.
Bingo.

When Sergei can create even HALF the scoring chances that Kostopoulos does in a game.. he can have his spot back. Until then, I'd rather have Kosto playing just as much or similar minutes because at least he wears down the other team with physical play.

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because he is still effective in what he is doing... creating a lotsa chances and driving the net.
I'm with you on this one, The guy deserves to be on an offensive line, he plays great. Now if he can capitaliz eon his chances, he could stay there

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and sice when do less talented Scott Walker's desirve to be on an offensive line for long strech of time?
When has playing on a third line become an offensive assignment? I've been watching hockey since since the late 70's and a 3rd line on a habs team (perhaps 90% of teams) has always been a defensive line. The 4th line being the "energy line" as they like to refer to it these days.

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Not so many lately
but who can, lately?

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To make room for Komisarek and Laraque who are both official for tonight, the Habs have sent back Ben Maxwell to the AHL.

Lines for tonight

A.Kost-Plekanec-Kovalev
Tanguay-Lang-D'Agostini
Latendresse-Lappierre-Kostopoulos
Laraque-Bégin-S.Kost

The obssession with Kostopoulos playing in an offensive is REALLY getting annoying, the guy hasn't scored since the last full moon anc can't make a pass to save his life, it's not his place, especially when we have a player like S.Kost on the team.
I think the reasoning behind this tonigh is because the Flyers play physical and Kostopoulos forechecks like a beast. That being said I can see S. kostitsyn playing on that line as the game progresses.
Remember both he and Latendresse have been in the dog house. Latendresse should a better effort vs. the Canes and is thus being rewarded for it.

Should be a interesting game tonight. if Montreal doesn't show up tonight it could be very ugly. Flyers are the hottest team in the league right now. They are fast tough and relentless!

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Um, without Koivu and Higgins in the lineup, we ARE NOT rolling 3 offensive lines, so Kostop isn't technically playing on an offensive line if he's playing 3rd line duties.

I am getting sick of hearing how S. Kost. deserves minutes and promotion, like he has prove ANYTHING in this league yet. Look at his career NHL stats....

79games 12goals 24assists 36points

.....hmmm, I'm surprise he hasn't won a boat load of Hart trophies yet!

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When has playing on a third line become an offensive assignment? I've been watching hockey since since the late 70's and a 3rd line on a habs team (perhaps 90% of teams) has always been a defensive line. The 4th line being the "energy line" as they like to refer to it these days.
sorry to break the news to you, but it's our goal since the start of the season to have 3 offensive lines , thus why Koivu, Plekanec and Lang are our top 3 centers.

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Farewell Mr. Maxwell. It's just a good bye, see you soon

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sorry to break the news to you, but it's our goal since the start of the season to have 3 offensive lines , thus why Koivu, Plekanec and Lang are our top 3 centers.
Like I've already said, being on a line that has been our 4th line this season and last year, isn't an offensive line.

Kostopoulos is on the 3rd line, which isn't an offensive line.. sorry to break it to you. Maybe you should read the names of the players on the line again.

Higgins (top-9 winger) & Koivu (top-9 centre) are out.. leaving us with Latendresse and Kostitsyn.. who are fitting for the last top-9 winger spot.. and if you can't admit that Latendresse has been better than Kostitsyn this year, I don't know what to tell you.

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