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Carle & Lupul + conditional 1st for Bouwmeester 12 14.12%
Carle & Lupul + Parent for Bouwmeester 3 3.53%
Jones & Lupul + Parent for Bouwmeester 16 18.82%
Jones & Lupul + conditional 1st for Bouwmeester 41 48.24%
We do not need Bouwmeester, Flyers need a goalie. 34 40.00%
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12-19-2008, 08:43 AM
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Florida Flyers (Bouwmeester)

What would you trade for Jay Bouwmeester?
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/...ay+Bouwmeester

(select two options)


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12-19-2008, 08:49 AM
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IMO...

Carle & Lupul + conditional 1st for Bouwmeester, but who knows. Who cares too, it's a pipe dream. With Sundins contract pro-rated...look for the Canucks to be heavy players in the J.Bo sweepstakes.

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12-19-2008, 08:51 AM
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I chose none of the above, he won't be traded here, nor are we getting another goalie.

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12-19-2008, 09:18 AM
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I chose none of the above, he won't be traded here, nor are we getting another goalie.

BTW, How far in the playoffs does your crystal ball have us going?

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I think it would take more than Jones, Lupul, and a 1st to get it done, but thats my vote. I could actually see it happening because moving those guys would move salary off the books. They would probably need another stud prospect in there, most likely Parent or Giroux.

Although, I think a trade like that would really "blow up" the team even though the only current NHLer you are moving is Lupes.

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12-19-2008, 10:42 AM
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I enjoy how Carle has one bad game and we already have the J-Bouw threads, lack of tolerance much?

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I enjoy how Carle has one bad game and we already have the J-Bouw threads, lack of tolerance much?
Carle could have had 10 good games in a row. I'd still want Jay-Bo if we could actually pull it off.

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12-19-2008, 10:56 AM
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Bouwmeester is the most overrated player in the league. Let someone else give up a gold mine for him. Hasn't anyone learned from the Lindros deal that these types of players are detriments around here? Seriously, I want no part of any prima donna and Bouwmeester is a prima donna.

If there's anyone from Florida I'd want, it'd be Keith Ballard.

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12-19-2008, 10:58 AM
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Why? so we can give up more in the trade for a player that's going to play 40 games for us?

We don't need this trade

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Bouwmeester is the most overrated player in the league. Let someone else give up a gold mine for him. Hasn't anyone learned from the Lindros deal that these types of players are detriments around here? Seriously, I want no part of any prima donna and Bouwmeester is a prima donna.

If there's anyone from Florida I'd want, it'd be Keith Ballard.
What exactly has Bouwmeester done to make him a primadonna? And who is saying anything about giving up what was given up for Lindros?

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Why? so we can give up more in the trade for a player that's going to play 40 games for us?

We don't need this trade
Erm, ideally we sign him long-term after trading for him.

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12-19-2008, 11:03 AM
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I enjoy how Carle has one bad game and we already have the J-Bouw threads, lack of tolerance much?
Has nothing to do with Carle's play yesterday.

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i hate these threads. he's not coming here

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BTW, How far in the playoffs does your crystal ball have us going?
We would meet Atlanta in the first round according to my season projections, so at least to the second round.

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i hate these threads. he's not coming here
Nobody said he was though. It's a discussion on an otherwise slow day. It is a discussion/message board.



To quote Kaktus...

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What would you trade for Jay Bouwmeester?

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Id give Lupul and Jones and a 1st. They can have Jones anyway even if they say no to the trade.

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Florida Flyers? is that some kind of sick joke?

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Id give Lupul and Jones and a 1st. They can have Jones anyway even if they say no to the trade.

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BTW, How far in the playoffs does your crystal ball have us going?
How far did people have us going last year? To the East Finals, I don't think so...

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Id give Lupul and Jones and a 1st. They can have Jones anyway even if they say no to the trade.
I'd personally drive him to the airport and buy his ticket, as well.

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I vote none of the above.

Reason #1: I believe Bouwmeester will cost more than any of those options. Maybe something like Lupul, Carle/Coburn, Giroux and Parent. He's going to be a hot commodity, so he won't be easily acquired by trading Florida a player no one here seems to want (Jones), a chronic underachiever (Lupul) and a potential late first round draft pick.

Reason #2: I actually like how this team looks right now. Bouwmeester is a great player, but he may not be enough to get this team over the hump, especially if the Flyers have to move one or more roster players to get him here.

In the net, the Flyers don't need a Luongo/Brodeur/Lundqvist to win the Cup; Biron is more than capable, as he proved last season.

Once Carle has fully adjusted to his role in Philly, the top four of Timonen, Coburn, Carle and Vaananen will be as good as any top four in the East. Alberts seems to be settling in alright after a rough first month and any of Jones, Parent or Sbisa would be a suitable compliment on the third pairing.

Injuries are going to happen, but if this team gets lucky and has a full, healthy roster come playoff time, I'm fine without any big push for a wildcard like Bouwmeester.

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I vote none of the above.

Reason #1: I believe Bouwmeester will cost more than any of those options. Maybe something like Lupul, Carle/Coburn, Giroux and Parent. He's going to be a hot commodity, so he won't be easily acquired by trading Florida a player no one here seems to want (Jones), a chronic underachiever (Lupul) and a potential late first round draft pick.
Whats wrong with trading Carle for someone like Bouwmeester? Or do you mean Carle, Giroux and Parent? No team will give up that much.

I voted Carle and Lupul and Parent or Carle and Lupul and 1st conditional.

Do people actually realize that Bouwmeester is top 10 d-men in the NHL in his prime?

If his contract demands are affordable how can anyone say no.

I mean all of us love Timonen, right? Well, Bouwmeester is 6.4 220lbs Timonen and 5-6 younger and can put someone like Malkin into the boards with out taking a penalty on every god damn shift.

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Whats wrong with trading Carle for someone like Bouwmeester? Or do you mean Carle, Giroux and Parent? No team will give up that much.
I meant all of Lupul, Giroux and Parent and one of Carle/Coburn.

You're right, Bouwmeester is coming into his prime and is already established as a top notch defenseman. I expect two roster players and two prospects will be the asking price for Bouwmeester.


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I meant all of Lupul, Giroux and Parent and one of Carle/Coburn.

You're right, Bouwmeester is coming into his prime and is already established as a top notch defenseman. I expect two roster players and two prospects will be the asking price for Bouwmeester.
Not as an unsigned pending UFA.

Florida screwed the pooch BADLY last summer.

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Not as an unsigned pending UFA.

Florida screwed the pooch BADLY last summer.
Under most UFA circumstances, I'd agree. Florida will command a heavy return because the demand will be there.

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Personally, id rather keep Carle. I'd try and make a better push with other assets, while trying to leave him out of the mix.

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