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12-19-2008, 04:39 PM
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I love this board. There's been a thread for every single castoff that's ever been put on waivers.

Nevermind having to be patient with Plekanec, Higgins, the Kostitsyns, keeping Chipchura in the minors...let's take up another roster spot + kill cap room with a forward that can't stay on one of the worst teams in the league. Good idea.

**** you, Martin St.Louis. You started this crap.
Begin was a waiver pick up

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I'm not familiar with Jokinen other than his old "shootout specialist' status.

He seems to have put up decent numbers in Dallas. I'm sure he'd be worth a shot but where would we play him?

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Begin was a waiver pick up
off the waiver wire...when we, you know, needed someone on the roster.

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1 for 7 this year, 18 for 36 all-time. He was lights out in Dallas, but in Tampa he can't score. Maybe goalies figured out he only has 2 moves.
Maybe he wasn't motivated to score on the shootouts in Tampa in a bad team. Everyone knew his moves in Dallas too, it's just that he was good at pulling them off anyhow.

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Edmonton should pick him up.

Jokinen + Garon = Edmonton traps to a shootout every game and wins.

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Somebody will pick him up. And when 18 / 36 all time doesn't seem that good on paper, it is impressive when you see that no one has scored more shootout goals than he did since it has been instated.

The best with the Habs is Koivu with 11/25.

edit: Kovalev is 7/23, Tanguay is 7/19, AKost is 3/11, Markov is 2/5, Higgins and Lang are 1/7. So 18/36 is incredible, to have maintained 50% over than many attempts.

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1 for 7 this year, 18 for 36 all-time. He was lights out in Dallas, but in Tampa he can't score. Maybe goalies figured out he only has 2 moves.
Or maybe he, like most Tampa players, just don't care all that much.

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I love this board. There's been a thread for every single castoff that's ever been put on waivers.

Nevermind having to be patient with Plekanec, Higgins, the Kostitsyns, keeping Chipchura in the minors...let's take up another roster spot + kill cap room with a forward that can't stay on one of the worst teams in the league. Good idea.

**** you, Martin St.Louis. You started this crap.
Claim Jokinen, ship Christopher Higgins out of this town for an average puck moving defencemen and there you go.

Jokinen is better than Higgins and the guy can be the shootout specialist. I doubt that the guy would still be available tough. Hopefully Ottawa claim him if Montreal doesn't want him.



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12-19-2008, 05:51 PM
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I'm not familiar with Jokinen other than his old "shootout specialist' status.

He seems to have put up decent numbers in Dallas. I'm sure he'd be worth a shot but where would we play him?
Right now? On our 3rd *offensive* line seeing as that Jokinen can play centre.

A. Kost - Plekanec - Kovalev
Tanguay - Lang - D'Agostini
Latendresse - Jokinen - S. Kostitsyn
Begin - Lapierre - Kostopoulos

When Higgins comes back, we have a bit of a logjam.. but we can figure that out in 5 weeks. When Koivu comes back, we can place Begin in the pressbox for a bit, too make sure his body doesn't wear down.

It also would be a smart move because it lets an offensive player know that they can't just get back in the lineup based on talent a lot.

The fact that Jokinen is 25, an RFA, and makes under $2M are all nice reason to take him. But I've mention many times that the reason I grab him is simple; he can play any forward position.

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12-19-2008, 05:53 PM
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Claim Jokinen, ship Christopher Higgins out of this town for an average puck moving defencemen and there you go.

Jokinen is better than Higgins and the guy can be the shootout specialist. I doubt that the guy would still be available tough. Hopefully Ottawa claim him if Montreal doesn't want him.



Higgins, all assets, is better than Jokinen. Higgins brings leadership, heart, and some grit where-as Jokinen fits in with most of our other players. If we are serious about making a push, Higgins needs to be on our team come playoffs.

Personally, I just keep them all.. It makes the competition better.


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Higgins, all assets, is better than Jokinen. Higgins brings leadership, heart, and some grit where-as Jokinen fits in with most of our other players. If we are serious about making a push, Higgins needs to be on our team come playoffs.

Personally, I just keep them all.. It makes the competition better.
I agree with you, Higgins is not even in the same world as J. Jokinen as a player.

However, to say Higgins MUST be with the team when the playoffs begin is an overstatement. He sure helps our depth, but I'd take a great defenseman (Kaberle or Bouwmeester) before Higgins hands down, as it would help us a lot in the playoffs.

Plus the fact that Higgins wasn't exactly a key player in last year's run.


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Tampa is crazy.
effectively!

they are a joke of an organization now, they do not know how to run a team or manage a roster. they are a bunch or morons!

and no we dont need jusi, habs have enough wingers. habs need top 4 D!

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Claim Jokinen, ship Christopher Higgins out of this town for an average puck moving defencemen and there you go.

Jokinen is better than Higgins and the guy can be the shootout specialist. I doubt that the guy would still be available tough. Hopefully Ottawa claim him if Montreal doesn't want him.


Erika, i know that for you Christopher Higgins is the worst underachiever, but if I had to choose between Chris and Jussi, i'd choose Higgins without a doubt.


OOOOHHHH YOU PLAYED US!! IT WAS ALL SARCASM!

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ROFLMAO Tampa Bay, what a dumb move.

Pick him up NOW Habs, please do.

Good 2-way game, we could plug him on the 3rd line if we trade Higgins for a defenceman.
Good in shootouts.

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Longest scoring streak
Jussi Jokinen DAL, TBL 9 (Nov. 05, 2005 - Mar. 07, 2006)
Jokinen, in his rookie year, scored 9 straight SO goals. Which I guess is where all this "OMFG SO AWESOME IN DA SHOOTOUTZ" stuff comes from.

That was two years ago. He has 18 career shootout goals in 36 attempts. Which means since that hot run (which ended in EARLY 2006), he has a total of 9 goals in what I estimate to be roughly 27 attempts, possibly a bit less. So if he's a "shootout specialist" then just about anyone with a 33% scoring percentage (his percentage in total attempts since his hot streak) is also by definition a shootout specialist.

Geez...might as well be calling Brian Boucher a "shutout specialist" after he reeled off 5 straight shutout's a few years ago...

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12-19-2008, 10:03 PM
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unless there is personal reason(leaving to go home. off ice etc) then this one doesn't make much sense, but Tampa has gave us more than a few head scratchers recently.


Maybe they are filming a soon to be released Hockey reality TV show in Tampa?

Maybe this was just part of a segment of the show ?

Miss a shootout someone gets waived?

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ROFLMAO Tampa Bay, what a dumb move.

Pick him up NOW Habs, please do.

Good 2-way game, we could plug him on the 3rd line if we trade Higgins for a defenceman.
Good in shootouts.
Cristobal...this team needs more 3rd liners that don't hit or fight?

I don't think we need his contribution of 16 goals, 30 hits and 20 blocked shots for the year. Amazing shootout goals or not.


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he has a total of 9 goals in what I estimate to be roughly 27 attempts, possibly a bit less. So if he's a "shootout specialist" then just about anyone with a 33% scoring percentage (his percentage in total attempts since his hot streak) is also by definition a shootout specialist..
You can't arbitrarily remove his best streak and then call his % bad. Take any player's shootout stats, remove their best streak, and they are probably just as bad. Also, most guys on the Habs don't break 33% lifetime.

But you just said something stupid, so I guess if we remove the streak of all the brilliant things you might have said, that makes you an idiot by definition.

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The Habs need another left handed shooting offensive winger like they need a bullet in the head, yet lots of people here want to pick this guy up? We don't even know what to do with the ones we currently have when everyone is healthy!

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The Habs need another left handed shooting offensive winger like they need a bullet in the head, yet lots of people here want to pick this guy up? We don't even know what to do with the ones we currently have when everyone is healthy!
The only reason we would take him is because we are about trade other forwards (more than one) on our rooster, and still have 1.8 millions to put on him, but i can't see him going through the waivers till he gets to the Habs who must around the 20-22nd to pick a player on waivers, while his former team, the Stars will have the opportunity to claim him around the 4-5 picks.

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Dallas would probably like to have him back

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Dallas would probably like to have him back
you know there feelings about "seconds"



anyways

Jokinen clears waivers

http://www.tboblogs.com/index.php/sports/related/C189/

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you know there feelings about "seconds"



anyways

Jokinen clears waivers

http://www.tboblogs.com/index.php/sports/related/C189/
No team claimed him???? WTF!

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the guy is not that good

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the guy is not that good
I know he's not that good, i dont want him on my team, but 29 teams (30 if we include Tampa) have passed on him?

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