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12-21-2008, 11:22 PM
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Weight to Alberta! Eklund Speculation.

No thanks, if Eklund is right.......go for it Edmonton, we don't want him what do you guys think.

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12-21-2008, 11:48 PM
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Nope. But I do think Sutter will respond to the Sundin signing by bringing someone in. I wouldn't mind seeing Shanahan here, but I doubt it will happen.

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Nope. But I do think Sutter will respond to the Sundin signing by bringing someone in. I wouldn't mind seeing Shanahan here, but I doubt it will happen.
Define what you mean by 'bringing' someone in. I think this team is talented enough to get by as is, why should we make a reactionary move and give up valuable assets just to match the (somewhat unsurprising) signing of Sundin? That's never been Sutter's mantra. Never.

Also, Shanahan doesn't make us better; he makes us slower.

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12-22-2008, 11:02 AM
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I would love to see Doug Weight in a flames jersey depending on the price, even if he would just be a rental player. He is 36th in league scoring, on pace for 70 points, and would be Calgary's second highest scoring player behind igilna. He is old at 37, a UFA in the summer, and has a cap hit of 4.2 million but i would not mind taking him on, depending on the cost. i doubt it but would craig conroy and a 3rd round pick get it done?

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I would love to see Doug Weight in a flames jersey depending on the price, even if he would just be a rental player. He is 36th in league scoring, on pace for 70 points, and would be Calgary's second highest scoring player behind igilna. He is old at 37, a UFA in the summer, and has a cap hit of 4.2 million but i would not mind taking him on, depending on the cost. i doubt it but would craig conroy and a 3rd round pick get it done?
His cap hit would be lower than that since the season is more than 1/3 through. I personally wouldn't mind seeing Weight in Calgary. The team could use another offensive player. Heck, bring Weight and Guerin to Calgary.

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weight could play great on the second line

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really dont want weight in calgary even if he is having a great year (hated him for too many years.. that and he's extremely injury prone).

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Also, Shanahan doesn't make us better; he makes us slower.
He brings winning, leadership and clutchness. Any team with deep post-season aspirations would take a serious look at him.

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He brings winning, leadership and clutchness. Any team with deep post-season aspirations would take a serious look at him.
Agree with that. Any idea what Shanahan would get cash wise? Not sure if this is even remotely plausible (he lieks the east coast they say) but it seems something might give trade wise as every time a kid is brought up they play well... giving Sutter more guys he could trade etc. Options seem to be increasing greatly as the year progresses

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really dont want weight in calgary even if he is having a great year (hated him for too many years.. that and he's extremely injury prone).
he's missed 27 games since the lockout... that's not exactly injury prone

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Well then, I guess I beg to differ. Shanahan is 39 years old, and while he may be able to bring clutch play and leadership, he also makes us a whole class level lower in foot speed - and in case you haven't noticed, Calgary isn't exactly the fastest team out there as is.

Simply put, this isn't 2002 anymore, and I think his skills are being overrated at this point. Leadership, he brings.... but so do alot of other guys already currently on our team.

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uhh he's had some pretty serious knee injuries in the past (leading to his blistering speed), and has been injured almost every year he's been in the nhl. and when he eventually does come back he slumps for a good twenty games before regaining his composure.

dude everybody knows weight's injury prone, so i have no idea what kindve a point you're trying to make. so he hasnt been seriously injured in the past three years, that doesnt mean he's still not prone to injury.

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Well then, I guess I beg to differ. Shanahan is 39 years old, and while he may be able to bring clutch play and leadership, he also makes us a whole class level lower in foot speed - and in case you haven't noticed, Calgary isn't exactly the fastest team out there as is.

Simply put, this isn't 2002 anymore, and I think his skills are being overrated at this point. Leadership, he brings.... but so do alot of other guys already currently on our team.
although i agree with everything you've said, you have to give shanny a little credit as a pp specialist.. and we definitely need one of those..

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uhh he's had some pretty serious knee injuries in the past (leading to his blistering speed), and has been injured almost every year he's been in the nhl. and when he eventually does come back he slumps for a good twenty games before regaining his composure.

dude everybody knows weight's injury prone, so i have no idea what kindve a point you're trying to make. so he hasnt been seriously injured in the past three years, that doesnt mean he's still not prone to injury.
just because injuries bothered him 5 years ago does not make them relevant now... the NHL is a what have you done for me lately business... not having a serious injury in almost 3.5 seasons would make him not injury prone... and even prior to the lockout when 'injury prone' Weight had missed 45 games over the previous 5 seasons... so in what works out to about 9.4 seasons Weight has missed a grand total of 72 games... that's a whopping 7-8 games per season...

NHL trades are always pending a physical... the Flames will have plenty of knowledge about injuries should they pull off such a trade... and I don't see why they wouldn't if he is healthy... Weight would immediately be 2nd on the team in scoring and would be tied for the team lead in assists... Weight's numbers are very impressive with an inferior Isles club... IMO he would be a pretty decent center to have between Cammalleri & Iginla come playoff time...

just open up your mind and look at things a little differently... a guy with an injury history is likely to cost much less at the deadline to acquire... sure its a bit of a risk but if you don't have to give up a roster player its low risk/high reward... guys like Weight, Havlat & Lehtinen fall into this category...

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although i agree with everything you've said, you have to give shanny a little credit as a pp specialist.. and we definitely need one of those..
we have 2 in Bertuzzi, and Cammalleri... our problem is not the lack of PP tools... but the lack of players who can carry the puck into the offensive zone... Phaneuf seems to be the only that can most nights... Shannan while great on the PP... is not a player that can do that... his PP numbers were aided by the fact he was lucky enough to play with guys like Lidstrom & Jagr who could get the puck into the offensive zone with ease

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Well then, I guess I beg to differ. Shanahan is 39 years old, and while he may be able to bring clutch play and leadership, he also makes us a whole class level lower in foot speed - and in case you haven't noticed, Calgary isn't exactly the fastest team out there as is.

Simply put, this isn't 2002 anymore, and I think his skills are being overrated at this point. Leadership, he brings.... but so do alot of other guys already currently on our team.
Throughout his career, he helped make other players play better. If Shanny didn't feel that he could perform at a reasonable enough level, he would've already announced his retirement. It was he, not Jagr, who had the Rangers playing over their heads two years. Of those two (Jagr, Shanahan), it should be rather obvious who was in it for the money.

Unless the Flames were able to unload salary, such as Aucoin, it would seem highly unlikely that he would fit anyway. That, and there's probably still lingering resentment from Shanny's days under Iron Mike in St. Louis.

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I can't say I'd be a fan of bringing in Weight or Shanahan for that matter. We finally seem to be letting our young guys step up and get more playing time and they have done well. Just don't know why you want to change that now.

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While Shanahan would be a nice addition, I think he wants to stay close to NYC where his family currently resides. As such, he'll probably continue to explore options on the East Coast before looking West. I'm surprised that a team like the Bruins hasn't called him as he would be a great fit with the young Bruins.

Weight, meanwhile, would be a better fit IMO. The Flames could use more depth and skill at the centre position. Adding Weight would also allow the team to dangle Lombardi in a trade for another defenceman or move Conroy down the fourth line. A team can never have too much depth down the middle.

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More depth and cup experience.....if you can fit him in under the cap, Weight could contribute a lot. The Flames would suddenly be in a position where they have a lot of depth at center ice. You can never have too many centers at a time like that.

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