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12-24-2008, 11:34 AM
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Yotes financial troubles...

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=2608...s=secStory_nhl

Not even Gretzky can save the hockey hotbed known as Phoenix...

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http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=2608...s=secStory_nhl

Not even Gretzky can save the hockey hotbed known as Phoenix...
Last I looked, the Kings were selling seats for 11.50...

People in glass houses...

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Why is the league so adament about not moving these teams...If they go bankrupt another business/business man will for sure by them and move them.

We don't need a team in Phoenix, we don't need two in Florida and the one in Atlanta is a mess.

One of these teams has to go back to Canada...bottom line.

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The Kings don't get money from revenue-sharing. They are actually borrowing it from us.

What is going to happen when they have no money from revenue-sharing because they have already borrowed it all. Sharing revenues was done in the spirit of having extra money for players for small market teams. It doesn't sound like Phoenix is applying it very well. They are actually starting to turn the corner...and they won't have any money to improve.

It's not like they are a big draw for FA'a anyways...

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I was just listening to an interview on Fan 590 with Scott Burnside on Nick Kypreos' show and he said one major problem is the parking situation.

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I was just listening to an interview on Fan 590 with Scott Burnside on Nick Kypreos' show and he said one major problem is the parking situation.
Parking is free and available. There is always a spot and it never costs a dime.

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I was just listening to an interview on Fan 590 with Scott Burnside on Nick Kypreos' show and he said one major problem is the parking situation.
Parking should not be a problem. The stadium is across the street from were the Cardinals play. There is a HUGE parking lot. Just don't play games on the same day. The problem is Phoenix does not have enough hockey fans.
I know that most teams are suffering this year. I think that makes teams that draw well, draw ok, and teams that were already struggling end up on life support.
The Kings $11.50 is a gimmick. They are hoping that by getting new and disgruntled fans into the arena, they will buy full priced tickets for other games. Like free samples at Costco make you buy the product. Yes some people only take the free ones, but enough must buy to make it worthwhile.

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Parking is free and available. There is always a spot and it never costs a dime.
That is problem I think. They should be charging.

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That is problem I think. They should be charging.
Is it a publically-financed stadium? If so, then they should NOT be charging.

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Go to fan590 and click on the interview with Burnside at the top right.

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Move them to Utah. It's cold and mormons like hockey.

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That is problem I think. They should be charging.
Wouldn't work the stadium shares parking with a small but very nice shopping mall, with decent places to eat/drink before and after games as well as a really nice movie theatre. There'd be no way to enforce parking for games without screwing over people going to a movie or out to eat. If anything that arena should be used as a model of how to set up an arena the right way as opposed to say Minnesota where the arena is right square in the middle of downtown St. Paul.

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Here's a link to the Globe and Mail article they're talking about in the TSN link.

The story from the Globe discusses other issues like the arena location causing their big money spending fans (read: luxury box attendees, etc.) from showing up coupled with the team having to discount tickets which further lowers revenue. As well as the horrendous financial troubles of the ownership.

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Wouldn't work the stadium shares parking with a small but very nice shopping mall, with decent places to eat/drink before and after games as well as a really nice movie theatre. There'd be no way to enforce parking for games without screwing over people going to a movie or out to eat. If anything that arena should be used as a model of how to set up an arena the right way as opposed to say Minnesota where the arena is right square in the middle of downtown St. Paul.
Minnesota could put the arena in the mountains where you can only get there by mule and they would still sell out every game.

Actually, that is what Phoenix should do. Move to Minnesota.

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Move them back to Winnipeg...then we could have the jets and sharks series again. good old west side story series. The fans would fill the rink all the time it would be amazing

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I liked the Jets...although I hated Selanne then as well. Weird.

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Move them back to Winnipeg...then we could have the jets and sharks series again. good old west side story series. The fans would fill the rink all the time it would be amazing
They really should move back to Winnipeg.

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Winnipeg is simply not an option. An outdated 15K seat arena is not going to work.

KC is first in line....

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I think they should fold or head to Hamilton. I can't think of anywhere else to put them which wouldn't be a lateral move from Phoenix.

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Move them to Utah. It's cold and mormons like hockey.
Yes we do.

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Move them to Utah. It's cold and mormons like hockey.
I always thought the same thing, but SLC is a basketball and sking town. Heck the AHL failed there. Admittedly, travel cost assocated with being the only AHL team west of the rockies did not help, but ....

Portland would be a better hockey city. They love hockey and it is larger than SLC.

Phx does not deserve a NHL team. I say this as a STH for a few years now. Phx would be perfect for an AHL division out west. Phx SLC PDX maybe SAC or perhaps even Ont.

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Move them to Utah. It's cold and mormons like hockey.
I live part time in SLC, and it pains me to say the market is not quite ready. The locals are big fans, and the transplants like me would rather be on the slopes all day and by the fireplace at night to rest up for the next day of skiing.

Phoenix is not alone. Atlanta is losing over $25 mm a year (I heard it from a broker looking to find a buyer for the team). Got to believe several other smaller market teams are also losing about the same. The CBA did not fix the problem of small market teams losing money, just as I predicted. And, the rising Canadian dollar which has raised the salary cap by double digits three years in a row has exacerbated the situation. Folks, I believe we are heading for another crisis.

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I think PHX can survive if they start winning consistently.

Remember when the Coyotes first moved out there? They had a good team, and had no problems drawing crowds.

That team has a good future, and I'd say there's a good chance they make the playoffs this year.

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