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In that situation, Columbus would also need a backup. I'll fully admit to not knowing how the Flyers goalies are playing, but threads like "Flyers need a top goalie!" lead me to believe they are not playing great. What would need to come back from Columbus' side of the equation to get one or the other, or would the increased cap room be enough?
the problem is that our goalies need consistency. too often, we go from a night where our goalie plays vezina-worthy, then goes back to letting in beach balls. there seems to be a sentiment that the flyers can't legitimately compete for the cup without a top-tier goalie, thus the trade proposals.
You give nothing but you tie a whole lot of cap space and that's worth a whole lot, as the Flyers find out every year (thank god for Hatcher and Rathje, right?).
what does Rathje have to do with it? he doesnt even count agaisnt the cap
Common sense says he wouldn't move it. It was Philly or Montreal when he was a FA. I can't think of a single reason why he'd want to leave Philly. It's a first class org that will be competitive for the duration of his contract. The core of the team is in place for the next three plus seasons. Briere leaving Philly is as ridiculous as the thought of Ovie, Crosby, Malkin, Lidstrom, etc leaving their teams. He's going to be a Flyer for a really long time time whether anyone likes it or not. The same goes for the other players I mentioned, plus the higher end prospects the Flyers have.
The Flyers aren't the only first class organization or competitive team in the NHL. There certainly could be some teams that would peak his interest. He liked it in Buffalo so who is to say he wouldn't waive it to go there? Who is to say he wouldn't be interested in playing for the Habs? The odds of him waiving it may not be great, but I think it's a bit foolish to say he would never ever waive it.
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Originally Posted by captainpaxil
cap hits are calculated by average club payroll from actual salary paid from when they acquire a player to the end of thier contract. teams are not responsible for previously paid salary. his cap hit for the flyers will never go down your correct, but with a different team it will be less as they arent responsible for the higher salary the flyers already paid. multi year deals are like prorated contracts the cap hit is only the length of the deal going forward.
Incorrect. The team that acquires him wouldn't be responsible for the salary already paid, but his cap hit never changes.
The only team I could really see trying to get him is Columbus... Not manhy teams can take on that contract.
Atlanta, Florida, Columbus what will Colorado do next year, how about Habs will they resign Koivu? Van, will they be able to keep both Sedins as well as Sundin, what will NYI do next year? Do you know what St Louis will do? Leafs? Or Sabres? Most of these teams will need 1st or 2nd line center or re-sign their own.
How many UFA 1st or 2nd line centers will be available next year?
1st line centers Sundin, Sedin(maybe), Koivu(maybe) and thats where it ends
2nd line centers (some of them are more like 3rd line centers at this point of their careers): Connolly (injury prone), Cammalleri (more like a RW/LW), Antropov (2nd?), Weight (2nd?), McDonald (2nd?, does not look like it), Kozlov (3rd), Fedorov(3rd, retire?), Niedermayer (3rd), Madden (3rd, probably stays in NJ), Lang (3rd or retire)
Atlanta, Florida, what will Colorado do next year, how about Habs will they resign Koivu? Van, will they be able to keep both Sedins as well as Sundin, what will NYI do next year?
How many UFA 1st or 2nd line centers will be available next year?
1st line centers Sundin, Sedin(maybe), Koivu(maybe) and thats where it ends
2nd line centers (some of them are more like 3rd line centers at this point of their careers): Connolly, Cammalleri, Antropov, Niedermayer, Madden, Weight, McDonald, Kozlov, Fedorov, Lang
Colorado is good enough on the center position. Stastny has shown in the absence of Sakic he can handle the no. 1 role and as for the no. 2 center they have their top prospect TJ Hensick who can take that role [its time to rebuild in Colorado so they need a movement of youth talent] and also Wolski who can be converted to the center role.
Besides, isn't Briere's salary worth more than Stastny's. I don't think I would want a 2nd liner making more than my 1st liner and I'd choose Stastny over Briere on my 1st line [just because he is younger and looks to have a higher upside than Briere].
MTL is probably the only team Briere would waive his NMC to go to. What are the odds on PHI and MTL making a trade of any kind anytime soon, about none to none? Some people might want to throw Buffalo in there as well, but that bridge was burned when he left. Briere didn't leave Buffalo the least bit happy, and Buffalo is also a threat to Philly in the playoffs...
Colorado is good enough on the center position. Stastny has shown in the absence of Sakic he can handle the no. 1 role and as for the no. 2 center they have their top prospect TJ Hensick who can take that role [its time to rebuild in Colorado so they need a movement of youth talent] and also Wolski who can be converted to the center role.
Besides, isn't Briere's salary worth more than Stastny's. I don't think I would want a 2nd liner making more than my 1st liner and I'd choose Stastny over Briere on my 1st line [just because he is younger and looks to have a higher upside than Briere].
O yes, Hensick. Stamkos is not doing it but Hensick will?
Let me guess whats next? I did not watch Hensick.
I did not say all of those teams will be looking to trade for Briere. Did I? I mentioned teams that might be in a market for 1st or 2nd line center available through UFA.
You would choose Stastny over Briere? 99% of HF boards fans would do the same. So what?
I would put DBs value in the area of what Brad Richards got last TD.
As for his cap hit, IMO he is about 1 mil per over his value.
Do the Flyers need a small 1 way ish ppg 3rd line center atm at 6.5 mil per, thats the question.
He does make for a great hedge if either Carter or Rich go down. I don't think there is a team in the league that does not have use for a ppg/pp skilled guy.
But even then i see him as a square peg trying to fit into a round hole.
I believe the Flyers would be far better off using that 6.5 hit to round out and fill holes.
the value of the money freed up by trading briere id take that deal with a solid plus. brinddy being our third line shutdown center. what is brinddy s contract price and length?
the value of the money freed up by trading briere id take that deal with a solid plus. brinddy being our third line shutdown center. what is brinddy s contract price and length?
having richards and brindamour would be awesome. i don't think the entire team has enough blood for the combined might of their hearts.
