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12-29-2008, 11:50 AM
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WAIVED:Frantisek Kaberle the solution?

So Kaberle has been waived by the Hurricanes due to their self imposed budjet. He is a cap hit at 2.2m. Do we pick him up? Can he be the solution? I thought I remembered him doing quite well in 06/07 on the PP. Could he help there?

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KABERLE!!!


no way he clears though

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looks like another niinimaa type pickup imo. Injured all the time and not that productive except for 1 season. unless he has some hidden defensive skills I don't know about I think it'd be a marginal pickup.

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He will be claimed before he is available to us.

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No way he gets to us. My bet is, the first team that gets a chance picks him.

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That's what I was kind of thinking. How is the order determined anyway? Lowest winning %?

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looks like another niinimaa type pickup imo. Injured all the time and not that productive except for 1 season. unless he has some hidden defensive skills I don't know about I think it'd be a marginal pickup.
F Kaberle is light years ahead of Niinima. If it wasn't for him (and the refs), the Habs would've won against the Canes in the playoffs.

A change in scenery will do this guy some good. In the past two seasons, look at the Canes record with and without Kaberle, and you'll see he makes quite a difference.

I do agree tho that he is constantly injured. And I do agree with many other posters that he won't be available by the time the Habs would pick him up. Other teams can chose before the Habs and he will certainly be picked-up (maybe all teams will be waiting forre-entry waivers to cut half the salary, but I doubt it).

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No offense against Niinimaa who has provided us with tons of laughter from all the great photo shop pics. But F.Kaberle is a much better all-around defenseman than Niinimaa was by the time we got him.

I'd be very surprised if he would be available when our turn came. But if he is, I would hope that Gainey would seriously consider picking him up.

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We need a pp shooter not a passer like Frantisek Kaberle

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We need a pp shooter not a passer like Frantisek Kaberle
For the sake of being good in the playoffs, I'd rather have Kaberle than a shooter on the PP. Defense wins championships. Kaberle makes a good first pass which we miss much much more than a PP shooter. We are already good on defense and even strenght play, with Kaberle, we'd be even better.

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I thought I remembered him doing quite well in 06/07 on the PP. Could he help there?

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hmmmm
The guy had 3 powerplay points in 06/07 and has not scored a goal in his last 93 games.

Maybe you are confusing him with Tomas kaberle who is a good powerplay D.

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F. Kaberle is tremendously overrated, for some reason. No thanks.

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The gamble is high.... not because he costs much, but because of his cap hit.
In the event Gainey can claim Kaberle and claims him, I think that the Habs may be cap-barred from bringing any other defensemen, even if Kaberle gets injured.

I'm not a CBA expert, but I think that's the foreseeable thing. Hopefully I'm wrong.

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The gamble is high.... not because he costs much, but because of his cap hit.
In the event Gainey can claim Kaberle and claims him, I think that the Habs may be cap-barred from bringing any other defensemen, even if Kaberle gets injured.

I'm not a CBA expert, but I think that's the foreseeable thing. Hopefully I'm wrong.
Well, for one, Komi missed more than 15 games, as will Higgins and Dandenault, will give the Habs cap salary exemption for the games they missed. That should amount close to 1-2 mil. And Kaberle's cap hit is almost down to half of what it was, around 1,2/1,3 mil. The Habs already had 1 mil in space, so I don't think it would be a risk cap-wise.

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hmmmm
The guy had 3 powerplay points in 06/07 and has not scored a goal in his last 93 games.

Maybe you are confusing him with Tomas kaberle who is a good powerplay D.
Personally I don't want F.Kaberle for our power play or the offense that he may or may not bring. The reason why I would like to see us go for him is that he's a solid top 4 defenseman. Pairing him off with Hamrlik would be big step to solidifying our defense. Plus it would cost us nothing to obtain him.

As much as I would like to see a Bouwmeester, Zidlicky or whomever else has been rumoured. I think F.Kaberle would be a good plan B, kind of like how Lang was a good plan B.

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Bah the Leafs will get him.

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Bah the Leafs will get him.
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Hmm for some reason I thoguht he was good on the PP. I knew Tomas was but also for Frantisek too. Guess not. But to back up H10H he would definately give us a huge presenence on the back end.

Markov-Komisarek
Hamrlik-Kaberle
Bouillon-Gorges

That looks pretty good to me. Too bad were in the 24th spot to pick him up.

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Hmm for some reason I thoguht he was good on the PP. I knew Tomas was but also for Frantisek too. Guess not. But to back up H10H he would definately give us a huge presenence on the back end.

Markov-Komisarek
Hamrlik-Kaberle
Bouillon-Gorges

That looks pretty good to me. Too bad were in the 24th spot to pick him up.
He has proven in the past to be good on the power play. But in more of a set up role, similar to what Markov does. He would definitely be a good option for our 2nd PP unit.

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Hmm for some reason I thoguht he was good on the PP. I knew Tomas was but also for Frantisek too. Guess not. But to back up H10H he would definately give us a huge presenence on the back end.

Markov-Komisarek
Hamrlik-Kaberle
Bouillon-Gorges

That looks pretty good to me. Too bad were in the 24th spot to pick him up.
Where do we get to see the picking order? Is it based on win% or the league standings?

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Where do we get to see the picking order? Is it based on win% or the league standings?
It's based on how many points earned out of a total of possible points. The Habs have a .647 points percentage. The only other teams with a higher percentage are Washington(.662), Chicago(.712), Detroit(.729), Boston(.806) and San Jose(.829)

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It's based on how many points earned out of a total of possible points. The Habs have a .647 points percentage. The only other teams with a higher percentage are Washington(.662), Chicago(.712), Detroit(.729), Boston(.806) and San Jose(.829)
That's called win percentage as in "win%", don't need to explain it to me, jsut needed to know on what the picking order was based.

Thanks anyway.

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So Kaberle has been waived by the Hurricanes due to their self imposed budjet. He is a cap hit at 2.2m. Do we pick him up? Can he be the solution? I thought I remembered him doing quite well in 06/07 on the PP. Could he help there?

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Not sure what that would help, at that cap hit, not worth the look.

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I'm not sure we even have the cap space to claim him.

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F. Kaberle is tremendously overrated, for some reason. No thanks.
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