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12-29-2008, 03:36 PM
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Habs fan would get flamed big time with offers like that for a guy that scored 29 goals and 69 points last year.
Yep, and a player who has improved in his past 3 seasons (albeit he hasn't been doing too well in his 4th so far, I'm sure he will improve).

Add to that the ridiculous 'facts' about Pleky being bad in defence, lazy, which he is none of. A stud on PK and a very good two-way center.

Him being underpaid and a RFA while performing sub-par on a contract year might just be a blessing in disguise for the habs. He still has -50 games to get back on track.

If most of the crap that has been offered on this board is the value of Plek, hurry up and sign him while his value is at all-time low.

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Considering half of Montreal's team is UFA next year (okay not that many, but still...) I can't imagine they'd get rid of Plekanec. He's the type of guy you need to surround your stars and build a winner.
Definitely agree.


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12-29-2008, 03:52 PM
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There's no way we're trading Plekanec unless it's for a package for a top notch center in return, ala Nathan Horton.

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12-29-2008, 03:53 PM
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To me, Plekanec is not worth much more than Prucha.

1. He's lazy
2. Can't play defense
3. He's small
4. He only put up good numbers when Souray and Streit had the PP rocking.

One year does not raise your value to a 3rd or 4th defenseman plus a 2nd round pick
How can you say hes not worth much more than Prucha? Prucha doesnt even play regularly.

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12-29-2008, 03:59 PM
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There's no way we're trading Plekanec unless it's for a package for a top notch center in return, ala Nathan Horton.
Horton is a full mess.....don't go near him.

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12-29-2008, 04:17 PM
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Yea, Wizzer is a gamer and provides both offense and physicality from the back end. He's had some injury problems, but if he's on your third pairing your defense is pretty damn solid.

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12-29-2008, 09:13 PM
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To me, Plekanec is not worth much more than Prucha.

1. He's lazy
2. Can't play defense
3. He's small
4. He only put up good numbers when Souray and Streit had the PP rocking.

One year does not raise your value to a 3rd or 4th defenseman plus a 2nd round pick
I can't wait to see more of your input on the boards, you're very informed.

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12-29-2008, 10:02 PM
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Horton is a full mess.....don't go near him.
Please explain. Inquiring mind wants to know...

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12-29-2008, 10:14 PM
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Please explain. Inquiring mind wants to know...
Similar situation to Stefan Legein. The guy is questioning his future in hockey, granted a change in scenary may do wonders for him. But Florida would be asking alot, I would rather have a guy with half of his skill but wants to compete.

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Sabres offer Jochen Hecht, Jaroslav Spacek, 2nd Round Pick for Pleks.

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12-29-2008, 10:35 PM
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Similar situation to Stefan Legein. The guy is questioning his future in hockey, granted a change in scenary may do wonders for him. But Florida would be asking alot, I would rather have a guy with half of his skill but wants to compete.
I love the combination of size, grit and skills, something we are lacking on our team big time. I'd take the risk as winning has a tendency to bring back the fun to play.

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12-29-2008, 11:02 PM
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To me, Plekanec is not worth much more than Prucha.

1. He's lazy
2. Can't play defense
3. He's small
4. He only put up good numbers when Souray and Streit had the PP rocking.

One year does not raise your value to a 3rd or 4th defenseman plus a 2nd round pick
Hahaha, lmao, oh my god, the ignorance... why the hell do you even freakin' post in this thread if you've never seen him play.

You've only got one of your point right and that's the number 3 which you shouldn't take too much credit for since any moron could go look up his size one hockeydb.

Bravo again sir

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12-30-2008, 06:42 AM
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I think Grebeshkov would take the 4th spot ahead of Gorges..
I know HF stands for Hockey Futures, but don't mistake upside potential with current performance. Right now, Gorges is the better defenseman. He's probably been the Habs best defensive d-man this season in terms of performance.

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12-30-2008, 07:28 AM
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To me, Plekanec is not worth much more than Prucha.

1. He's lazy
2. Can't play defense
3. He's small
4. He only put up good numbers when Souray and Streit had the PP rocking.

One year does not raise your value to a 3rd or 4th defenseman plus a 2nd round pick
with already 2 pk goal i do agree he can't play defense ...

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12-30-2008, 07:42 AM
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I know HF stands for Hockey Futures, but don't mistake upside potential with current performance. Right now, Gorges is the better defenseman. He's probably been the Habs best defensive d-man this season in terms of performance.
Completely depends on what you want the No.4 D-man to be - shutdown or offensive. Grebs is good defensively, but his passing and puck-rushing are stellar. A slightly bigger younger Visnovsky. He's going to cost a bit to re-sign tho'...

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12-30-2008, 08:01 AM
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To me, Plekanec is not worth much more than Prucha.

1. He's lazy
2. Can't play defense
3. He's small
4. He only put up good numbers when Souray and Streit had the PP rocking.

One year does not raise your value to a 3rd or 4th defenseman plus a 2nd round pick

You again Mr i don't know hockey.Well you got 1 out of 4 right. His isn't really big. Good for you.

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12-30-2008, 09:57 AM
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His value is probably similar to a Dereck Roy or Jason Pominville.

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12-30-2008, 10:18 AM
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His value is probably similar to a Dereck Roy or Jason Pominville.
I would take Derek Roy over Pleks in a heartbeat. He has much more of a sniper's mentality. Pominville kinda reminds me of Tanguay...

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12-30-2008, 10:25 AM
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I would take Derek Roy over Pleks in a heartbeat. He has much more of a sniper's mentality.
Having followed him all year last year, Plek was a huge part of the reason we finished first in the East last year. Our whole style of play was focused on him and his style about speedy turnovers and fast rushes. I like Roy and his speed but he seems like a guy that will always be average a la Jason Blake.

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Pominville kinda reminds me of Tanguay...
Pominville has more perseverance than Tanguay. From what i'ver seen of him he looks like a more talented Eric Belanger(Minnesota).

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12-30-2008, 12:32 PM
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I would take Derek Roy over Pleks in a heartbeat. He has much more of a sniper's mentality. Pominville kinda reminds me of Tanguay...
Definately with you on this one

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12-30-2008, 12:40 PM
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He could probably fetch the Habs a first round pick. If he increases his point total to 70-80 this year, then he could fetch an even heftier return.

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To me, Plekanec is not worth much more than Prucha.

1. He's lazy
2. Can't play defense
3. He's small
4. He only put up good numbers when Souray and Streit had the PP rocking.

One year does not raise your value to a 3rd or 4th defenseman plus a 2nd round pick
1. What? This guy is always skating at full speed and he s always trying to do something on the ice.

2. Ehh this guy was seen as a defensive forward three years ago...and yea his career plus/minus of +31 really belong to a one way player !

3. And? 5'10'' 196 lbs is not abysmal to me.

4. Yea, last year he got 69 points and 29 goals. Only 12 goals and 25 points were from the power play ! And when Souray was on the PP unit, Plekanec was not even a regular PP guy !

Thanks for demonstrating how well you don't know crap about this guy.

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