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01-02-2009, 07:41 PM
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This is how rumours get started.....

Watching the first intermission of the Russia Czech game on TSN, and they showed a clip of sutter and brian burke sitting besides each other and talking in the stands. (James Duthie actually said this is how rumours get started to haha.) Could be nothing but.... Burke was previously on the broadcast saying the team wants to acquire picks, seeing how they do not have picks in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rounds of this years draft, and that he is not getting real good offers now, and that he will probably move players closer to the deadline when their value will be higher. We need a d man so would Mike van Ryan be a possibility. He is hurt now, and missed a lot of last year, but he played the most minutes of his career when keenan was coaching in florida, and the second most minutes the year keenan was gm in florida. he has a cap hit of 2.9 million for this year and next, and he turns 30 in may.
I wouldn't mind having him around, maybe for a low round pick that would turn into a higher pick if he can stay healthy.

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01-02-2009, 08:44 PM
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Hmmm interesting and Anaheim was involved in Sutters first round trades at the draft. That said an injury prone player is a risk. If the Flames could swing it and all I would prefer Kaberle... think he is paid around what Aucoin gets and he seems a better playoff guy... maybe not curious what Sutter might do at the deadline.

I would be afraid to touch the offence as they are scoring great now.

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Hmm not many players from the Leafs I'd really be interested in. Obviously a guy like Kaberle would be a great addition, but the cost for him would probably be quite a bit. Going with the other thread a big guy like Antropov might be tempting to Sutter. Having a good year and could be a number 2 center. Lastly Matt Stajan interests me, but I'm not sure he is a guy Sutter would target.

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Yes i would prefer kaberle to, and his cost must have gone down from last year, (Jeff Carter and a 1rst rounder), but the only reason i list van Ryan is because of the Keenan factor, much like Adrian Aucoin.

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Has anyone considered that Burke and Sutter were scouting the Russian or Czech players?

...yeah, I doubt it as well

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Has anyone considered that Burke and Sutter were scouting the Russian or Czech players?

...yeah, I doubt it as well

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Has anyone considered that Burke and Sutter were scouting the Russian or Czech players?

...yeah, I doubt it as well
Nah friends talking to each other? Has to be more to it than that. Whenever I see two men talking to each other I know they're discussing wife swapping or some other kind of transaction.

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Has anyone considered that Burke and Sutter were scouting the Russian or Czech players?

...yeah, I doubt it as well
Nah probably talking about Lowe and how bad the oilers are.

But really these GM's talk to each other probably every day. I'm definetly not expecting a leafs/flames trade anytime soon.

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Has anyone considered that Burke and Sutter were scouting the Russian or Czech players?

...yeah, I doubt it as well

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I wouldn't be surprised to see something get done. Burke is on record saying he is going to assess his team first, then in the new year, start making some trades.

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/tor081201.html

If Burke is looking at dismantling that Toronto team and his top scorers are all being made available like the article suggests, why wouldn't Sutter be in there pitching for the Flames?

Sutter has been pursuing hot defensive prospects since the offseason with the overtures made towards Redden. If he has a crack at Kaberle, why not? Especially since he only costs a little over 4 million. With Aucoin's salary potentially coming off the books next year, to pursue Kaberle would be the smart thing to do don't you think?

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I wouldn't be surprised to see something get done. Burke is on record saying he is going to assess his team first, then in the new year, start making some trades.

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/tor081201.html

If Burke is looking at dismantling that Toronto team and his top scorers are all being made available like the article suggests, why wouldn't Sutter be in there pitching for the Flames?

Sutter has been pursuing hot defensive prospects since the offseason with the overtures made towards Redden. If he has a crack at Kaberle, why not? Especially since he only costs a little over 4 million. With Aucoin's salary potentially coming off the books next year, to pursue Kaberle would be the smart thing to do don't you think?
Ever since the trade for Brad Stuart, Sutter has been more careful who we has on his team not make the same type of trade again.

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Ever since the trade for Brad Stuart, Sutter has been more careful who we has on his team not make the same type of trade again.

Kaberle would be much easier to swing than Bouwmeister. Sutter keeps swinging trying to bring in another defender like he did with Hamrlik. Kaberle is much the same type. Now that would be a great accompaniment for Phaneuf.

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I would love to have Kaberle as a Flame... he is one of the few guys I would be willing to give up Backlund, a pick & a roster player for

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I would love to have Kaberle as a Flame... he is one of the few guys I would be willing to give up Backlund, a pick & a roster player for
Giving up on Backlund would be difficult. The first real high skill forward the Flames have drafted in the first round in some time. But, it if means putting the Flames over the top for the playoffs, I just might do it.

On the positive side, the Flames are outscoring the Penguins right now. Do they need a lot more scoring punch? People got attached to the idea of bringing in a scorer or holding onto the offensive prospects at all costs. It is not the only way to win. I believe Backlund is gonna be a player, and a very good one some day. But when you get a chance to put your team over the top, you jump at it.

I think I would want more if the pick was fairly high and the roster player was decent. Maybe Antropov would be a nice addition.

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01-04-2009, 01:38 PM
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Burke has stated that he wants a fighter...I wonder if Sutter would move Roy in a minor deal, or include him as part of a larger package? Roy hasn't brought anything to this team, and I think we wouldn't have too hard of a time replacing his average of 6 minutes of icetime...and THREE fights all season.

Obviously trading him alone wouldn't lead to much in the way of a return, but he might be a piece that Burke would be interested in some sort of package deal.

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Burke has stated that he wants a fighter...I wonder if Sutter would move Roy in a minor deal, or include him as part of a larger package? Roy hasn't brought anything to this team, and I think we wouldn't have too hard of a time replacing his average of 6 minutes of icetime...and THREE fights all season.

Obviously trading him alone wouldn't lead to much in the way of a return, but he might be a piece that Burke would be interested in some sort of package deal.
I disagree. He has been huge in the locker room and has actually played pretty well. May not be the best fighter, but he can play the game and hold his own. Also one of the guys who isn't afraid to step up in the dressing room and hold guys accountable.

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^ Roy could definitely be added within a package deal and I agree that he hasnt really done much for the Flames.

But giving up Backlund... for that we would need to get something big in return. After watching Backlung in the Junior champioships I have no doubt he will make a nice impact on the team he plays with in the future.

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I disagree. He has been huge in the locker room and has actually played pretty well. May not be the best fighter, but he can play the game and hold his own. Also one of the guys who isn't afraid to step up in the dressing room and hold guys accountable.
Thats definitely good and much needed but if he can be added to a package to get something good in return I would rather get rid of him that a lot of the other flames.

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I disagree. He has been huge in the locker room and has actually played pretty well. May not be the best fighter, but he can play the game and hold his own. Also one of the guys who isn't afraid to step up in the dressing room and hold guys accountable.
But do you really think removing him from the locker room would have a huge impact? I think the flames are a strong enough club to deal with the removal of a marginal player, even if everyone likes him.

Lots of guys can play the game, the flames have enough of them in their system to replace Roy if he is moved...and if moving him as part of a package can add a player who helps the team i doubt you'd hear any complaints.

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But do you really think removing him from the locker room would have a huge impact? I think the flames are a strong enough club to deal with the removal of a marginal player, even if everyone likes him.

Lots of guys can play the game, the flames have enough of them in their system to replace Roy if he is moved...and if moving him as part of a package can add a player who helps the team i doubt you'd hear any complaints.
I was merely stating that Roy does indeed bring something to the team and isn't useless like you implied.

And what are you expecting back from Roy if he was traded? Definetly don't think he has much trade value right now.

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I was merely stating that Roy does indeed bring something to the team and isn't useless like you implied.

And what are you expecting back from Roy if he was traded? Definetly don't think he has much trade value right now.
i agree that he has limited value...which is why i suggested some sort of package. he'd be a minor part of the package, but if Burke wants a fighter I could see Roy being part of the deal.

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