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09-03-2008, 09:44 PM
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Interesting bit of trivia - when Lanny McDonald began his career with the Leafs he looked so bad that they were afraid they had wasted the 4th overall pick on a bust. It turned out the trainer was sharpening his skates with a different hollow than he was accustomed to.

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09-04-2008, 09:44 AM
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i dont think it makes that big of a difference personally.... i have no idea what mine are at.. and im a pretty experienced player. i havent got my one90s profiled yet

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My advice, that I'm going to stick to, always tell the guy in the shop what hollow you want. Don't leave it to chance. I heard another customer talking with the shop guy and he said their standard is 3/8. My bad, I should have asked in the first place. But now atleast I know the difference for me.
Yeah, you have to always say what you want, but if they are any good, they'll ask you regardless.

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09-05-2008, 10:04 AM
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Currently I'm skating on a 1/2" hollow. I think I'm going to move up to something with less bite, maybe 9/16, 5/8 or even a 3/4.

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What's the deal with radius'ing a skate, or profiling? I get the whole hollow idea, and I know what the radius of the blade is, but what's the advantage of one radius over another? What are the typical radius measurements? Or am I just mixing up terminology and pro shop jargon?

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09-05-2008, 12:16 PM
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What's the deal with radius'ing a skate, or profiling? I get the whole hollow idea, and I know what the radius of the blade is, but what's the advantage of one radius over another? What are the typical radius measurements? Or am I just mixing up terminology and pro shop jargon?
Shorter radius = sharper turns, more agility.

Larger radius = more speed, less agility.

Rockering and radius get mixed up a bit. Rockering refers to the pitch of the blade.

Forward rocker = pitched forward. Better acceleration, more on your toes.

Backwards rocker = back on your heels. Easier for skating backwards.

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09-05-2008, 12:18 PM
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Interesting bit of trivia - when Lanny McDonald began his career with the Leafs he looked so bad that they were afraid they had wasted the 4th overall pick on a bust. It turned out the trainer was sharpening his skates with a different hollow than he was accustomed to.
i think it was also that he had used a different rocker when he was in juniors and his balance was completely off.

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so then what does the hollow do..?

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Hollow and radius are the same thing.

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Hollow and radius are the same thing.
Er, not quite, it depends on the context.

While the hollow of a skate does have a radius, the term radius generally refers to something quite different. Vakar began to explain it, but I'm going to try and dig up a link that'll help you understand the difference.

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i dont think it makes that big of a difference personally.... i have no idea what mine are at.. and im a pretty experienced player. i havent got my one90s profiled yet
this thread is about blade hollows not blade profiling!! two totally different things..there experienced player!!

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Hollow and radius are the same thing.
custome Radius's and blade hollows are two different things. when u profile your blades u are using combination radii"s but when hollowing your skate it refers to basically the size of the edges within the blade..blademaster has a good explination on their site!!

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custome Radius's and blade hollows are two different things. when u profile your blades u are using combination radii"s but when hollowing your skate it refers to basically the size of the edges within the blade..blademaster has a good explination on their site!!
My take on it, correct me if I'm wrong:

Hollow: The cut of the blade. Look at it from the heel or toe; skinny part of the blade. The hollow makes you "blade" actually have two blades (Half circle, or hollow, creates two contact points [edges] and a high point).

Radius: Pivot, or contact point of the blade. The bottom of the blade is not flat, but rather it's gently curved (The rocker). Look at the skate from the side, imagine the blade slightly curved, the middle would be the low point, or contact/pivot point.

Profiling: No real idea, explanation? Is Profiling how your radius.hollow are setup in conjunction with each other?

Here's how I have a hold of it (IMG obviously exaggerated to convey the idea), please correct me if I'm wrong:


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My take on it, correct me if I'm wrong:

Hollow: The cut of the blade. Look at it from the heel or toe; skinny part of the blade. The hollow makes you "blade" actually have two blades (Half circle, or hollow, creates two contact points [edges] and a high point).

Radius: Pivot, or contact point of the blade. The bottom of the blade is not flat, but rather it's gently curved (The rocker). Look at the skate from the side, imagine the blade slightly curved, the middle would be the low point, or contact/pivot point.

Profiling: No real idea, explanation? Is Profiling how your radius.hollow are setup in conjunction with each other?

Here's how I have a hold of it (IMG obviously exaggerated to convey the idea), please correct me if I'm wrong:

exactly what i was tryin to say!!!

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this thread is about blade hollows not blade profiling!! two totally different things..there experienced player!!
sorry ive never had a need for anything more than profiling...

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sorry ive never had a need for anything more than profiling...
well you need an edge to skate on soo..how does that make any sense?
I think your in the wrong post!!

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well you need an edge to skate on soo..how does that make any sense?
I think your in the wrong post!!
no what i mean is, ive never had to change the hollow on my blade, ive only gotten it profiled.

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no what i mean is, ive never had to change the hollow on my blade, ive only gotten it profiled.
have you had the same guy sharpening your skates every time throughout your life?

If you've ever gotten your skates sharpened and had them felt too sharp? Then you probably could go with a shallower hollow. There wouldn't be that adjustment period where you have to wait a bit before they are just right.

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9/16 during the summer months when the ice is inevitably softer. A little deeper during the winter.

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I just skated on 3/4 and it felt great. I'll be sticking with it, instead of 5/8. I'm 180lbs.


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5/8. I'm 150 lbs.

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Currently I'm on 1/2, and I think I'll be sticking with it for now at least.

When I was learning to skate I was always going to the same place for sharpenings and I had no clue there were different hollows and they never asked what I wanted. Eventually I started reading stuff on the internet, learned about them, and decided I wanted to go to a shallower hollow, like 5/8, since I was having problems scraping the ice to stop (I assumed the shop just put a normal 1/2 hollow on them). Shortly after that I got really busy and didn't get on the ice for almost two years, and when I got back into it just recently I couldn't remember if I had made the switch to 5/8 or not. So I went to get them sharpened (at a different store, with a guy I had heard good things about), and said I couldn't remember if they were 1/2 or 5/8, and he said he'd measure them. He comes back and tells me they were 5/16! No wonder I couldn't stop!!

Anyway, to conclude the story, he put 1/2 hollow on them and I think I'm happy with that.

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currently using 1/2 and like it.

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Just had my skates (goal) done at 1/2" . having spent the last 4 decades on 1" ROH I have to say it was a major change, not as much as having the radius profile(28') done, but I think I will be keeping them at this hollow for a while. I actually began to feel very comfortable on the grind in less than 2 hours.

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I'm on 11/16", sharpening about once a month, and using a Miraclestone to maintain.

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