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01-08-2009, 12:33 PM
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Nix that, because that's how I thought of him before, but I just got to a point where I got really tired of how he presents them. Just a matter of opinion and taste. I just can't stand it anymore.

And McPhee, lighten up, if some guy thinks he can sound like a genius for coming up with half-assed rumors, people making fun of that is just a consequence of his own doing.
I'm not defending the guy, though if a guy can do this and make a living, if he actually is, I tip my hat to him, though he may be what's wrong with the world in a nutshell.

He's fair game, but c'mon, the same jokes over and over, it's worse than the guy's site. The outrage itself has gotten comical.

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01-08-2009, 12:42 PM
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I'm not defending the guy, though if a guy can do this and make a living, if he actually is, I tip my hat to him, though he may be what's wrong with the world in a nutshell.

He's fair game, but c'mon, the same jokes over and over, it's worse than the guy's site. The outrage itself has gotten comical.
The ransom of glory, no? I don't mind any of it, the rumors, the fact he makes money out of it, the jokes that are a direct consequence from it. Those are not the problem with me.

He just gets on my nerves now, I just can't stand it anymore. I used to have a high ceiling of tolerance for his crap, took it lightly, but now for some reason I can't explain, I jsut can't stand his way of saying those rumors, or how he doesn't seem to realize that he's a running joke for a lot of fans of hockey. Anyway, just my beef against him, is all.

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01-08-2009, 02:04 PM
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Hey guys. Minnesota Wild fan here. I got a question for you. It really seems like you guys in a PP quarterback, and this thread reflects that. Right now, the Wild have probably one more PP defenseman than they need. The Wild need another scoring winger, and you seem to have plenty.

Wild have Zidlicky and M.A. Bergeron, both of whom have been quite successful running our PP this year. Both have killer slap-shots. Bergeron is currently injured for another week, or so. Zidlicky is the better of the two defensively, while both are fairly equal offensively carrying the puck and shooting, IMO. Therefore, Zidlicky would cost more than Bergeron. I also think our GM would like to keep Zidlicky around for a few years if he can.

It seems pretty obvious that you guys won't trade away Koivu, Kovalev Tanguay, and frankly, I don't think the Wild want any of those players, because they are looking for young wingers.

I'm not going to suger-coat anything, because it's not like covincing a bunch of HFboards posters is going to make it happen in real life. But, I was wondering what you guys think about this (once all players are healthly, in a week or so):

To Habs
M.A. Bergeron - Bottom pairing Dman, PP specialist. Small guy, but man can he shoot the puck. Really does well on the PP. His defense is definitely suspect. However, before, he was just plain bad, now I think he's improved his positional game under JL. He still gets throw by powerforwards, and that is generally where the majority of his mistakes come into play. He's got a little stick, so his reach is severely limited, and this cause him to take bad penalties when he gets on the wrong side of the oppositions body. However, for the Wild, he hasn't really coughed up the puck much (which was supposedly what we were told when we got him) and he can skate the puck out of the zone when in trouble. Before he was injured, he was on pace for 40 points.

Benoit Pouliot - Center or winger. #4 overall in the 2005. Big, lanky forward with loads of talent, but is a floater. 6'3" and will play at 210 pounds in a year or two. JL and Pouliot do not get along. Pouliot is the exact kind of player that the Wild like to kill by turning him into a grinder. He is definitely a giant question mark. He could be great, or a bust. Either way, this kid has got to get to a more open system. JL has his head all messed up. His value is not that high, but some other club would definitely get more use out of him than us. But like I said, he could just be an NHL bust.

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Higgins - He seems like a hometown favorite, so you guys probably don't want to let him go. But it also seems like you have plenty of other players to fill his void while he's been injured all year. The Wild need a 25/25 guy like him. Somebody Bouchard could feed the puck to.

Salary Dump Dman
Any Dman you choose to dump on us, we would take to make this deal work. Cap really isn't a problem. Our top-5 D is set, and we just rotate the 6th spot depending on the situation.

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01-08-2009, 02:12 PM
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Hey guys. Minnesota Wild fan here. I got a question for you. It really seems like you guys in a PP quarterback, and this thread reflects that. Right now, the Wild have probably one more PP defenseman than they need. The Wild need another scoring winger, and you seem to have plenty.

Wild have Zidlicky and M.A. Bergeron, both of whom have been quite successful running our PP this year. Both have killer slap-shots. Bergeron is currently injured for another week, or so. Zidlicky is the better of the two defensively, while both are fairly equal offensively carrying the puck and shooting, IMO. Therefore, Zidlicky would cost more than Bergeron. I also think our GM would like to keep Zidlicky around for a few years if he can.

It seems pretty obvious that you guys won't trade away Koivu, Kovalev Tanguay, and frankly, I don't think the Wild want any of those players, because they are looking for young wingers.

I'm not going to suger-coat anything, because it's not like covincing a bunch of HFboards posters is going to make it happen in real life. But, I was wondering what you guys think about this (once all players are healthly, in a week or so):

To Habs
M.A. Bergeron - Bottom pairing Dman, PP specialist. Small guy, but man can he shoot the puck. Really does well on the PP. His defense is definitely suspect. However, before, he was just plain bad, now I think he's improved his positional game under JL. He still gets throw by powerforwards, and that is generally where the majority of his mistakes come into play. He's got a little stick, so his reach is severely limited, and this cause him to take bad penalties when he gets on the wrong side of the oppositions body. However, for the Wild, he hasn't really coughed up the puck much (which was supposedly what we were told when we got him) and he can skate the puck out of the zone when in trouble. Before he was injured, he was on pace for 40 points.

Benoit Pouliot - Center or winger. #4 overall in the 2005. Big, lanky forward with loads of talent, but is a floater. 6'3" and will play at 210 pounds in a year or two. JL and Pouliot do not get along. Pouliot is the exact kind of player that the Wild like to kill by turning him into a grinder. He is definitely a giant question mark. He could be great, or a bust. Either way, this kid has got to get to a more open system. JL has his head all messed up. His value is not that high, but some other club would definitely get more use out of him than us. But like I said, he could just be an NHL bust.

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Higgins - He seems like a hometown favorite, so you guys probably don't want to let him go. But it also seems like you have plenty of other players to fill his void while he's been injured all year. The Wild need a 25/25 guy like him. Somebody Bouchard could feed the puck to.

Salary Dump Dman
Any Dman you choose to dump on us, we would take to make this deal work. Cap really isn't a problem. Our top-5 D is set, and we just rotate the 6th spot depending on the situation.
Huh??? Switch Bergeron for Zidlicky and you might have a deal, we won't need a salary dump at this point of the season as Higgins salary would take some of Zid,s salary, and BG will never trade Higgins for only Bergeron and Pouliot. Atlanta wanted Higgins in the Hossa trade last season.

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01-08-2009, 02:36 PM
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The Habs are one of the best defensive teams in the NHL right now (Goals Against). I really don't want to disrupt that by giving Bergeron minutes. A guy like Jordan Leopold would bring almost the same offence but better defence.

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I can see the Schneider deal materializing given that he is a rental and a UFA. The longer we wait, the smaller the cap hit for the Habs and the higher the cap hit for ATL since they need to surpass the minimum.

As for JayBo, there is almost no chance of getting him in a Habs jersey. If he does get to UFA, he will sign with a western team.
I agree that there is almost no chance of seeing him in a Habs jersey like 99% of high calibre UFA's. However where do you get this that he will sign with a Western team?

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01-08-2009, 03:27 PM
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I can see Bob in his office..

"Man, those stupid rumours, I don't want that guy, if only they'd knew.."

But really, I don't know, Bob hasn't talked to me latelly



I have an outstanding source down south , in argentina , who told me Eklund based his false rumours on the conversations between milbury and réjean houle ... by taping their phones

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I'm not defending the guy, though if a guy can do this and make a living, if he actually is, I tip my hat to him, though he may be what's wrong with the world in a nutshell.

He's fair game, but c'mon, the same jokes over and over, it's worse than the guy's site. The outrage itself has gotten comical.
courageous post mcphee .... hahah


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The Habs are one of the best defensive teams in the NHL right now (Goals Against). I really don't want to disrupt that by giving Bergeron minutes. A guy like Jordan Leopold would bring almost the same offence but better defence.
Well. Bergeron is Bergeron. If your coach mis-matches him with Malone, he's going to get worked.

But, as he's a bottom pairing guy, should should be give limited 5v5 minutes and maximum PP minutes. If you do that correctly, he is an asset. He can shoot like the wind and make sweet passes because the D gets worried about his shot.

I was just thinking this would be a simple and cheap solution to your PP woes. I can see Pouliot taking off with your team. He can play center or wing. After Lang and Saku are gone, he could be that big, skilled center you guys need.

And Higgins just seems redundant with your forward line-up. But the Wild could really use him.

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Hey guys. Minnesota Wild fan here. I got a question for you. It really seems like you guys in a PP quarterback, and this thread reflects that. Right now, the Wild have probably one more PP defenseman than they need. The Wild need another scoring winger, and you seem to have plenty.

Wild have Zidlicky and M.A. Bergeron, both of whom have been quite successful running our PP this year. Both have killer slap-shots. Bergeron is currently injured for another week, or so. Zidlicky is the better of the two defensively, while both are fairly equal offensively carrying the puck and shooting, IMO. Therefore, Zidlicky would cost more than Bergeron. I also think our GM would like to keep Zidlicky around for a few years if he can.

It seems pretty obvious that you guys won't trade away Koivu, Kovalev Tanguay, and frankly, I don't think the Wild want any of those players, because they are looking for young wingers.

I'm not going to suger-coat anything, because it's not like covincing a bunch of HFboards posters is going to make it happen in real life. But, I was wondering what you guys think about this (once all players are healthly, in a week or so):

To Habs
M.A. Bergeron - Bottom pairing Dman, PP specialist. Small guy, but man can he shoot the puck. Really does well on the PP. His defense is definitely suspect. However, before, he was just plain bad, now I think he's improved his positional game under JL. He still gets throw by powerforwards, and that is generally where the majority of his mistakes come into play. He's got a little stick, so his reach is severely limited, and this cause him to take bad penalties when he gets on the wrong side of the oppositions body. However, for the Wild, he hasn't really coughed up the puck much (which was supposedly what we were told when we got him) and he can skate the puck out of the zone when in trouble. Before he was injured, he was on pace for 40 points.

Benoit Pouliot - Center or winger. #4 overall in the 2005. Big, lanky forward with loads of talent, but is a floater. 6'3" and will play at 210 pounds in a year or two. JL and Pouliot do not get along. Pouliot is the exact kind of player that the Wild like to kill by turning him into a grinder. He is definitely a giant question mark. He could be great, or a bust. Either way, this kid has got to get to a more open system. JL has his head all messed up. His value is not that high, but some other club would definitely get more use out of him than us. But like I said, he could just be an NHL bust.

To Wild
Higgins - He seems like a hometown favorite, so you guys probably don't want to let him go. But it also seems like you have plenty of other players to fill his void while he's been injured all year. The Wild need a 25/25 guy like him. Somebody Bouchard could feed the puck to.

Salary Dump Dman
Any Dman you choose to dump on us, we would take to make this deal work. Cap really isn't a problem. Our top-5 D is set, and we just rotate the 6th spot depending on the situation.
Not bad, but I can see BG holding out for Zidlicky and not doing this deal.... I really don't know what else if anything is on the table for Higgins right now but I don't think our lack of a PP shot is dire enough yet to get Gainey to budge on anything that isn't a clear upgrade to our D corps.

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Not bad, but I can see BG holding out for Zidlicky and not doing this deal.... I really don't know what else if anything is on the table for Higgins right now but I don't think our lack of a PP shot is dire enough yet to get Gainey to budge on anything that isn't a clear upgrade to our D corps.
I'd also prefer Zidlicky to Bergeron.

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we are now at e4 with Schneider


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we are now at e4 with Schneider

Nice,he is getting further and further from Montreal

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Nice,he is getting further and further from Montreal
absolutely!

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I'd also prefer Zidlicky to Bergeron.
Getting Bergeron will make us miss Streit even more.....defensively....

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I agree that there is almost no chance of seeing him in a Habs jersey like 99% of high calibre UFA's. However where do you get this that he will sign with a Western team?
it's been reported that Edmonton, his hometown, would be in his preferences.

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I say ridiculous! Schneider is too old and his salary is unpalatable.

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Bergeron is even worse than Brisebois

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Bergeron is even worse than Brisebois
Is that really possible?

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Nice,he is getting further and further from Montreal
Perfect !!

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I can see Bob in his office..

"Man, those stupid rumours, I don't want that guy, if only they'd knew.."

But really, I don't know, Bob hasn't talked to me latelly
Im pretty sure Gainey doesnt even know about Elkund

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Schneider ? No ! he is over the hill, big time.

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Schneider ? No ! he is over the hill, big time.
Can you imagine his face if he signed and looks up at the rafters and sees Roy's retired number right before his first game.. HA HA!!

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Can you imagine his face if he signed and looks up at the rafters and sees Roy's retired number right before his first game.. HA HA!!
What's in the past is in the past. I think that he'd be well over that by now.

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Can you imagine his face if he signed and looks up at the rafters and sees Roy's retired number right before his first game.. HA HA!!
He won a Cup with the guy and seen him with the Conn Smythe. He'd be dumb to think it wouldn't eventually go up there.

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