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01-08-2009, 10:01 PM
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Van-Car

i realize that carolina is in a position to get more forwards not trade them but lets assume they are out of it



Car trades: Williams and Wallin


Van trades: Bieksa and a 2nd or 3rd


i do not know what Car fans would think of it (i know very little about them).

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01-08-2009, 10:08 PM
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Wallin has been very good this year, but he is getting up there in age.
Williams is a very good player, but he's coming back from almost a complete season's worth of missed hockey.

Thing is though, our defense is actually quite good this year, and we have quite a few good prospects waiting for when Wallin retires and contracts we don't want (Kaberle) run out.

Basically what I'm saying is that while it's pretty even overall, It doesn't address any of the Hurricanes needs, which are not too many right now. A good enforcer who can actually win a fight and a backup goalie who can actually get really hot and win games when Ward is out.

But Williams won't be traded anytime soon. The Hurricanes have invested too much in him to not wait it out and see how he recovers from his injury.

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Wallin has been very good this year, but he is getting up there in age.
Williams is a very good player, but he's coming back from almost a complete season's worth of missed hockey.

Thing is though, our defense is actually quite good this year, and we have quite a few good prospects waiting for when Wallin retires and contracts we don't want (Kaberle) run out.

Basically what I'm saying is that while it's pretty even overall, It doesn't address any of the Hurricanes needs, which are not too many right now. A good enforcer who can actually win a fight and a backup goalie who can actually get really hot and win games when Ward is out.

But Williams won't be traded anytime soon. The Hurricanes have invested too much in him to not wait it out and see how he recovers from his injury.
what i switched Wallin with Kaberle

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Wallin has been very good this year, but he is getting up there in age.
Williams is a very good player, but he's coming back from almost a complete season's worth of missed hockey.

Thing is though, our defense is actually quite good this year, and we have quite a few good prospects waiting for when Wallin retires and contracts we don't want (Kaberle) run out.

Basically what I'm saying is that while it's pretty even overall, It doesn't address any of the Hurricanes needs, which are not too many right now. A good enforcer who can actually win a fight and a backup goalie who can actually get really hot and win games when Ward is out.

But Williams won't be traded anytime soon. The Hurricanes have invested too much in him to not wait it out and see how he recovers from his injury.
Counter proposal

Car trades: Williams and Wallin


Van trades: Hordichuk and Sanford


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Wallin has been very good this year, but he is getting up there in age.
Williams is a very good player, but he's coming back from almost a complete season's worth of missed hockey.

Thing is though, our defense is actually quite good this year, and we have quite a few good prospects waiting for when Wallin retires and contracts we don't want (Kaberle) run out.

Basically what I'm saying is that while it's pretty even overall, It doesn't address any of the Hurricanes needs, which are not too many right now. A good enforcer who can actually win a fight and a backup goalie who can actually get really hot and win games when Ward is out.

But Williams won't be traded anytime soon. The Hurricanes have invested too much in him to not wait it out and see how he recovers from his injury.
the only defense prospect i see joining carolina is McBain

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Counter proposal

Car trades: Williams and Wallin


Van trades: Hordichuk and Sanford

well from what he says it meets Car needs

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Wallin has been very good this year, but he is getting up there in age.
Williams is a very good player, but he's coming back from almost a complete season's worth of missed hockey.

Thing is though, our defense is actually quite good this year, and we have quite a few good prospects waiting for when Wallin retires and contracts we don't want (Kaberle) run out.

Basically what I'm saying is that while it's pretty even overall, It doesn't address any of the Hurricanes needs, which are not too many right now. A good enforcer who can actually win a fight and a backup goalie who can actually get really hot and win games when Ward is out.

But Williams won't be traded anytime soon. The Hurricanes have invested too much in him to not wait it out and see how he recovers from his injury.
Bieksa


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well from what he says it meets Car needs
Yes, but we don't need them that much. Kaberle for both?

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Yes, but we don't need them that much. Kaberle for both?
ask Gillies

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As much as I would love for the Nucks to acquire Williams, if the price is Bieksa, I would say no deal. Right now Bieksa is our #1 dman, and is the only oe capable of carrying the puck and starting plays. Without him, we would see a hell of alot more of the dmen turning back into their own zone looking for outlet passes when he isn't on the ice. Even with him, the Nucks do it way too much.

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01-08-2009, 10:56 PM
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Yeah, Vancouver's depth on defence is not good enough to deal Bieksa.

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01-08-2009, 11:07 PM
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I thought this was the discussion over the summer....

now that Bieksa has progressed to show his good season was not a fluke and is arguably the top "overall" dman (offensively, and defensively he has Mitchell there to look after him), I dont think the Canucks would consider losing him for Williams, who will be just another injury prone player on the Canucks IR (although a very good, young one)

I think Vancouver looks at upgrading their D before rounding out their offense, but hopefully they get both done by the deadline

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01-09-2009, 12:39 AM
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No to trading Bieksa unless it's a clearcut advantageous deal for Vancouver. Replacing his physicality and skill on the back end would be very difficult.

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Bieksa's pretty valuable at this point, given his icetime he doesnt make a lot of noticeable mistakes. Not to mention the hope he's given me that Edler could return to his breakout season form. Also the chemistry on the team is better than its been in a long time and he seems to be a pretty big personality in the dressing room.
Our forward lines arent exactly hurting right now, dont need to give up our number one dman for a guy with a pretty terrible recent injury history and an easily replaceble vet with no connection to Van. Not to mention our second and third rounders are actually looking to hold some value to us lately.
What about Sanford/Labarbera, Raymond, and Mike Brown for Williams?

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01-10-2009, 03:14 AM
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no thanks from canucks side we love bieksallent i would never even trade bieksa for lidstrom

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no thanks from canucks side we love bieksallent i would never even trade bieksa for lidstrom
Excuse me?

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Williams isn't going anywhere. Doesn't sound like Bieksa is either. For the people who metnioned Hordichuk. He turned down the opportunity to play with carolina this offseason so i don't think we'd want a player who has shown disinterest in the team. I could see a minor trade to get one of your back ups though. We wouldn't give up much in this market though.

Also to the person who said McBain is the only prospect on d that will make the club. Borer, Rodney and Carson have all played well in their call-ups so, we actually have a pretty good pipeline of young players waiting for their shot.

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