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01-11-2009, 05:09 PM
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Amazing what being on a decent team will do for your +/-.
They're better than just decent though. They scored 14 goals in the last 2 games

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With regards to the upcoming draft, what's everyone's opinion on Scott Glennie? He's got decent size, and he's considered to have natural goal-scoring instincts, something this organization lacks. And, right now, he looks like he'll be slotted around 18-22.

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With regards to the upcoming draft, what's everyone's opinion on Scott Glennie? He's got decent size, and he's considered to have natural goal-scoring instincts, something this organization lacks. And, right now, he looks like he'll be slotted around 18-22.
If that's where we end up picking, he's one of the guys that intrigues me. Also, O'Reilly and Ferraro, as well as Holland.

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You do the organization a disservice on this one, Ola. He can't go to the ECHL (or any other professional men's league) until next year - at his age, the options were either for him to crack the NHL or go back to juniors. So sending him to the Checkers was not possible.
Completely untrue. Lafleur was born in 1988, he was eligible to play in Hartford or Charlotte, they chose to send him back to the QMJHL.

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01-12-2009, 11:17 AM
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The Rangers didn't have a 3rd or 4th round pick in 07.The 3rd was traded to Atlanta with Pascal Dupuis for Alex Bourett and the 4th was traded at the previous draft to select Tomas Zaborsky.Bourett was sent to Phoenix for a 3rd which became Tomas Kundratek.

The Rangers do not have their 4th this coming draft.It was traded to Nashville for the Rangers 4th in 08 which they sent to the Blues for Backman.Nashville acquired it at the draft and the Rangers re-acquired it to select Dale Weise.

The Rangers have 3 5's-their pick,the Coyotes pick from the Montoya deal and the Penguins pick acquired from Toronto for Ryan Hollweg.Pittsburgh sent that pick to TO for Hal Gill.

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01-12-2009, 11:41 AM
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Major Junior Prospects:
Evgeny Grachev: 21G-19A-40P in 33GP, +13 14PIM (OHL)
Michael Del Zotto: 7G-26A-33P in 34GP, -12 48PIM (Oshawa); 1G-2A-3P in 2GP, +3 2PIM (London, OHL)
Mitch Gaulton: yet to play, should be returning soon (OHL)
Tysen Dowzak: 0G-5A-5P in 25GP, +2 43PIM (WHL)
Tomas Kundratek: 1G-8A-9P in 23 GP, +5 18PIM (WHL)
Chris Doyle: 21G-30A-51P in 40GP, -8 63PIM (QMJHL); pinched nerve in back, return uncertain
Antoine Lafleur: 10W-7L, 3.31GAA, .874SV% (QMJHL)

College Prospects:
Max Campbell: 8G-3A-11P in 21GP, 24PIM
Carl Hagelin: 6G-10A-16P in 22GP, 22PIM
Dan Hobbs: 1G-0A-1P in 17GP, 14PIM
Derek Stepan: 5G-14A-19P in 24GP, 4PIM

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Ryan Hillier: 6G-7A-13P in 33GP, +6 13PIM
Tomas Zaborsky: 4G-8A-12P in 28GP, +1 14PIM (Charlotte); 4G-2A-6P in 6GP, -1 6PIM (Dayton)

International Prospects:
David Kveton: 16G-20A-36P in 34GP, +5 18PIM (O2 Extraliga)
Lukas Zeliska: 0G-0A-0P in 11GP, even 0PIM (O2 Extraliga); 9G-4A-13P in 28GP, +4 46PIM (Czech 1.Liga)--back in 1.Liga
Ivan Baranka: 2G-2A-4P in 35GP, even 36PIM (KHL)

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01-12-2009, 11:57 AM
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Derek Stepan: 50G-14A-19P in 24GP, 4PIM
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Completely untrue. Lafleur was born in 1988, he was eligible to play in Hartford or Charlotte, they chose to send him back to the QMJHL.
Ah, I didn't realize, but his birthday is December 12, which is why he went in the 2007 draft rather than the 2006 draft (players are eligible to be drafted in a given year if they turn 18 by September 15 of that year). Therefore, E-Train is correct, he would have been eligible to play in the AHL (where the rule is 20 years or older by December 31 or 4 years of junior play - interesting that the dates don't line up exactly).

However, that doesn't change the fact that he DID in fact get traded after he lost his starting job at PEI - and it's his own poor play that's keeping him from getting playing time, not the Rangers' inability to get him into a situation where he could start.

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I really need to start error checking my stats reporting.

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wow....19 points for stepan who had a very slow start....very impressive for a freshamn playing against grown men

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wow....19 points for stepan who had a very slow start....very impressive for a freshamn playing against grown men
hes got his tap shoes a-going!



















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wow....19 points for stepan who had a very slow start....very impressive for a freshamn playing against grown men
Those are fantastic numbers for a a freshman. Its like 3rd among freshman in the entire NCAA.

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when does hockeysfuture update there profiles on players?

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Those are fantastic numbers for a a freshman. Its like 3rd among freshman in the entire NCAA.
Yep, behind only Jordan Schroeder--a likely top-10 pick this draft--and Austin Smith, a guy who is a year and a half older with a season of BCHL hockey under his belt. It's pretty damn good.

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Some bits from HF's Rangers ECHL report on the Rangers (Thanks Leslie!)

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That said, Wilkinson admires Hillier's skill set and thinks that Hillier "is a great kid. He's starting to figure out that doing it on the ice and the right way is what is going to get him ahead. I'm proud of him for turning it around. It took him awhile, but [Hillier is] asking the right questions, making smart plays, getting more chances. He's maturing and getting it. The light bulb has gone on. He's trending in the right direction."
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His former coach Wilkinson admitted in December that Zaborsky, "has a great mind for the game," but wanted the young forward to become "a two-way player, who can play on any line. Play in all kinds of situations. Not just get points."

Zaborsky, however, was very unhappy with how he was being used by the Checkers and wanted a change. Since the reassignment, his ice time has increased, he is now a first line player, and is being given a chance to showcase his offensive skills. However, Zaborsky's offensive talents were never in question. Consistent effort on both sides of the puck is what the Rangers have been looking for.
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/article...spects_update/

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"His overall play has just been fun to watch," Eaves said. "Part of the reason that we as a staff decided to give him more responsibility in terms of penalty killing is because you could see his growth. I think sometimes with young players, you battle how much responsibility to give a young player and how much to hold back. And I think with Derek, things have gone along at a good pace for him -- a pace that he's been able to accept and accelerate at. He's playing his best hockey."

Good article on Stepan

http://www.badgerbeat.com/news/article/id/431462

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Thanks for the links Nich and Squish.

Interesting, the bit on Zabs. I'm curious to know if the coach truly meant that he wanted Zabs to become a two-way player, or if that's just coach-speak for showing some semblance of responsibility in his own end. It's awesome to see that his offense has come around though, with 4 goals (6 points) in 6 games with Dayton. I'm hoping he can force his way into the AHL before seasons end.

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Good read. The comparison to Pavelski is nothing to sneeze at.

I know he's pretty slight right now due to his age, but anyone know what his frame projects to be?

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Good read. The comparison to Pavelski is nothing to sneeze at.

I know he's pretty slight right now due to his age, but anyone know what his frame projects to be?
I'm just guessing, but being that he's only 18, I could certainly see 6'1"-6'2", 190 or so. Again, just an educated guess. He's not huge physically but you can clearly see room for him to pack some meat on his frame. He's not wiry.

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he was 6'0" and 168 when drafted so my guess is he can end up around

6'2" 200.....

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6'1 190, doubt he makes it over 200lbs.

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Interesting he's doing better at center than wing at this point. Probably good that the Rangers can leave him at Wisconsin for another 3 years. By then, Drury's contract will be up and the Rangers will have hopefully figured out the center situation with guys like Dubinsky and Anisimov

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What kind of player is he? Could you compare him to any ranger players in the NHL right now (Playing style wise). Even a hybrid of the two.
something like.. Imagine Gomez but a good shot and likes to dangle a bit more.
or a mix between Zherdev stick handling/speed/vission with Drurys defensize awareness.

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Anyone have an update on David Skokan?

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6'1 190, doubt he makes it over 200lbs.
That's what I figured as well. Seems like he has the skillset to maximize his potential though.

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