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01-14-2009, 12:48 PM
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Andrei Kostitsyn....

To be honest, I have been watching the canadiens since I'm 5 years old and I have never seen such a talented player. Let's forget about stats a bit and let's talk about talent. Andrei Kostitsyn has nice vision, an amazing shot, above average skating and is physical. Since when have we had a player with such tools? Let's not talk about stats because I don't think he is even being used to his max potential. Yes I know, we always repeat AK46 isn't being used on RW (blah blah) but I think he has to have a key spot on the pp. He has like 2 or 3 pp goals this season and if we want more point from him....it has to change. I want him to stay with Sergei who is setting him up nicely but Koivu was doing a good job with AK too.

All and all, I think the potential with him is the sky and I am sure I am not the only here who thinks he would be a 80+ points player on a solid team elsewhere in the NHL.


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I've alway said that Kostitsyn has the potential to score 40 a year multiple times. I don't think many people here will disagree with what you said.

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I tend to agree. On pure talent alone, Kovalev is up there, but Andrei is pretty sick when he wants to. He's a slow starter at the beginning of the season, but when his game is on, he's a great player. I would also be curious to know what he would do on another team. Anyways, hopefully, we only see a fraction of what he can do...

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He's an excellent player. He's on fire lately, 6 points in last 3 games. He had a slow start but is still nearly on pace for 30 goals. He's a keeper. I don't think it's a matter of using him badly but it seems he never has great starts in the year but always finishes off strong.

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Keeper , showing his true talent and seems to be progressing well

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A euro that sores a lot of garbage goals, you don't see that often!

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He's the most complete guy on the Habs. He plays exactly like Ovechkin, but with way less talent.

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To be honest, I have been watching the canadiens since I'm 5 years old and I have never seen such a talented player.
Sheesh, how old are you now? You kidding me?

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Let's forget about stats a bit and let's talk about talent.
How can you take stats out of the equation though? You have no talent if your stats can't back it up. Malakhov could have been anything he wanted as well.

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Andrei Kostitsyn has nice vision, an amazing shot, above average skating and is physical. with such tools?
He isn't physical, not at all.

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Since when have we had a player
Kovalev, Plekanek, Koivu, Higgins.. Nalsund, Damphousse, Turgeon.. all have/had above average talent. Some could put it together, some can't.


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Let's not talk about stats because I don't think he is even being used to his max potential.
What you see is what you get.



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All and all, I think the potential with his is the sky and I am sure I am not the only here who thinks he would be a 80+ points player on a solid team elsewhere in the NHL.
He'll never be an 80 point player.

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I remember comparing AK46's even strength points and time on ice with Kovalev's even strength time on ice and points the last 2 years. Andrei really comes out ahead, more EV points in way way less minutes played.

But for some reason, the 5 years he's now been in North America, he basically sucks in October and November and is a stud the rest of the season. If he works on that, I guarantee he's a 35 goal, 70+ point guy next year.

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I like that he inspires such dumb behaviour in opposing teams as well. He draws his share of powerplays.

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Sheesh, how old are you now? You kidding me?



How can you take stats out of the equation though? You have no talent if your stats can't back it up. Malakhov could have been anything he wanted as well.



He isn't physical, not at all.



Kovalev, Plekanek, Koivu, Higgins.. Nalsund, Damphousse, Turgeon.. all have/had above average talent. Some could put it together, some can't.




What you see is what you get.





He'll never be an 80 point player.

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You clearly don't know what you're talking about. you lose all credibility with this statement alone.

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yep. My favourite Hab.

I still think he will get 40+ goals numerous times in his career.

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He's the most complete guy on the Habs. He plays exactly like Ovechkin, but with way less talent.
To me Kostitsyn is like Ovechkin on valium or something like that.

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You clearly don't know what you're talking about. you lose all credibility with this statement alone.
If hitting people from behind in the corners, while avoiding the high-traffic areas in front, is physical.. then yes.. you are correct.

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Dirtiest player in the league apparently.

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If hitting people from behind in the corners, while avoiding the high-traffic areas in front, is physical.. then yes.. you are correct.
Yes like that goal he scored yesterday angainst boston....

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Sheesh, how old are you now? You kidding me?



How can you take stats out of the equation though? You have no talent if your stats can't back it up. Malakhov could have been anything he wanted as well.



He isn't physical, not at all.


Kovalev, Plekanek, Koivu, Higgins.. Nalsund, Damphousse, Turgeon.. all have/had above average talent. Some could put it together, some can't.




What you see is what you get.





He'll never be an 80 point player.

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LOL @ your post.

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What I also like besides the talent,is that he also hits really hard

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Sheesh, how old are you now? You kidding me?



How can you take stats out of the equation though? You have no talent if your stats can't back it up. Malakhov could have been anything he wanted as well.



He isn't physical, not at all.


Kovalev, Plekanek, Koivu, Higgins.. Nalsund, Damphousse, Turgeon.. all have/had above average talent. Some could put it together, some can't.




What you see is what you get.





He'll never be an 80 point player.

Today's reality check is brought to you by the letters "V" and "L"

The only problem A.Kost has is that he doesn't have the same motivation and energy ovechkin has.


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I wish he shot the puck more (a la ovechkin). just take the puck, get some space and shoot the damn thing! if he got 10 shots on net a game with that rifle he has he could definitely score more often.

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Sheesh, how old are you now? You kidding me?



How can you take stats out of the equation though? You have no talent if your stats can't back it up. Malakhov could have been anything he wanted as well.



He isn't physical, not at all.

Anyways, he does it all and has a LOTS of potential. What he needs is more confidence. He has good speed, good hands, good shot and good strength.

Kovalev, Plekanek, Koivu, Higgins.. Nalsund, Damphousse, Turgeon.. all have/had above average talent. Some could put it together, some can't.




What you see is what you get.





He'll never be an 80 point player.

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Wow. you couldnt be more wrong.


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Sheesh, how old are you now? You kidding me?



How can you take stats out of the equation though? You have no talent if your stats can't back it up. Malakhov could have been anything he wanted as well.



He isn't physical, not at all.


Kovalev, Plekanek, Koivu, Higgins.. Nalsund, Damphousse, Turgeon.. all have/had above average talent. Some could put it together, some can't.




What you see is what you get.





He'll never be an 80 point player.

Today's reality check is brought to you by the letters "V" and "L"
Take a break

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I think reading "Habs" comments is an acquired taste. I don't know if I've grown more cynical since joining the board, but I've been slowly converted to his brand of dark humor even while disagreeing with him on content.

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The only problem A.Kost has is that he doesn't have the same motivation and energy ovechkin has.
that and not being as good as Ovechkin are about the only difference.

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I think reading "Habs" comments is an acquired taste. I don't know if I've grown more cynical since joining the board, but I've been slowly converted to his brand of dark humor even while disagreeing with him on content.
as a child, I never liked the black licorice, but now, I kind of like it, though sometimes I prefer the sweeter licorice. Habs is like black licorice.



If this makes any sense at all, it was purely by accident.


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that and not being as good as Ovechkin are about the only difference.
I think A Kost had a half open net on the powerplay last night from the right circle on the PP and he missed the net. Those are the kind of chances you know Ovy would bury.

Althought A Kost's shot at the end of the game was a good shot and Thomas made a great / lucky save.

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