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01-15-2009, 10:07 PM
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San Jose:
Mike Comrie

NYI:
Mike Greir
Draft Pick in 2009 or 2010

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01-15-2009, 10:13 PM
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San Jose:
Mike Comrie

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Mike Greir
Draft Pick in 2009 or 2010
Grier is a UFA-to-be. The only reason to include him in this deal is to clear cap room for the Sharks. And in exchange you're giving up "a draft pick". You didn't even put in the energy to specify the only part of the trade that is relevant to the Islanders. SJ doesn't have a first rounder in 2009. So, you're asking the Islanders to eat some salary, and get back a late 2nd rounder at best? Or wait all the way to 2010 for compensation?

Don't you think someone will do a little better?

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01-15-2009, 10:14 PM
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Grier is a UFA-to-be. The only reason to include him in this deal is to clear cap room for the Sharks. And in exchange you're giving up "a draft pick". You didn't even put in the energy to specify the only part of the trade that is relevant to the Islanders. SJ doesn't have a first rounder in 2009. So, you're asking the Islanders to eat some salary, and get back a late 2nd rounder at best? Or wait all the way to 2010 for compensation?

Don't you think someone will do a little better?
I agree that it would depend upon what the pick was. If it was a 2010 first, I would jump. It would be worth waiting a year for a first.

It also depends on what Grier's value is. If Snow could flip him for a decent pick, his situation becomes a plus and not a negative.

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01-15-2009, 10:26 PM
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Sharks need Grier more than Comrie.

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01-15-2009, 10:34 PM
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Grier is a major important defensively player to SJ

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Grier is a better all around player than Comrie. Deal.

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San Jose:
Mike Comrie

NYI:
Mike Greir
Draft Pick in 2009 or 2010
Why would NYI want Grier, who is on the wrong side of 30 and an impending FA? They're looking to rebuild, not add aging vets

Why would San Jose move Grier, who's an important part of their team? Comrie doesn't fill any glaring need they have.

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01-16-2009, 12:32 AM
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Sharks need Grier more than Comrie.

Grier seems like exactly the player you want in the playoffs.

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01-16-2009, 12:54 AM
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Grier seems like exactly the player you want in the playoffs.
Exactly. Leadership, effort, grit, and our second best penalty killer. But god almighty, hands of stone.

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First thought upon seeing this proposal: what would the first place team ever want from the last place team? You may want to make your hamburger tastier by adding ketchup, but not when that ketchup is tainted (i.e part of a losing formula).

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First thought upon seeing this proposal: what would the first place team ever want from the last place team? You may want to make your hamburger tastier by adding ketchup, but not when that ketchup is tainted (i.e part of a losing formula).
So, if Atlanta offered up Ilya Kovalchuk, you wouldn't want him since Atlanta is the 2nd worst team?

Also, usually it's only the teams that are losing that are willing to part with guys who can help now. Most teams that are winning are holding onto the guys who are contributing so they can try to do the most damage they can in the playoffs. The vast majority of deals this time of year are winning teams trying to improve by adding players from losing teams.

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01-16-2009, 03:46 PM
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No deal. Grier is needed on SJ more than Comrie.

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Grier is one of the Sharks most quietly essential players. His defensively play, toughness, and leadership are absolutely crucial to the team, plus, he seems to have developed some chemistry with Marleau on the PK and with Cheechoo, Goc, and Mitchell (last year) on the third line. No deal.

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01-16-2009, 07:50 PM
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If San Jose were a fantasy league team, Mike Comrie could conceivably be a more valuable statistical player.

As an NHL team, Mike Grier is an eminently more valuable hockey player to them.


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01-16-2009, 11:57 PM
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grier isnt going anywhere, if marleau wasnt there then grier would be the captain, he is that big of a leader on the sharks.

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01-17-2009, 12:08 AM
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Grier is a major important defensively player to SJ
True. Thank you.
Mike is a leader too, you know everybody wanna be like Mike. I don't wanna be like Mike, I wanna be like Christ.

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If San Jose were a fantasy league team, Mike Comrie could conceivably be a more valuable statistical player.

As an NHL team, Mike Grier is an eminently more valuable hockey player to them.
Best way to put it.

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01-17-2009, 12:54 PM
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No way!

The Islanders could do better for Comrie and frankly, in this scenario, I would rather see the Isles hold Comrie for one more season rather then make this trade.

Pass. No benefit to the Islanders.

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