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Vote Here On The Brewer Deal

View Poll Results: What do you think of the Brewer deal?
Lowe Is A Genius 15 15.63%
Lowe Is A Dunce 8 8.33%
Lowe & Brewer Are Equally Brilliant, and Fair To Boot 64 66.67%
Can't Take Much More Of This Contract Stuff, When Does Hockey Start? 9 9.38%
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08-05-2004, 03:10 PM
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Vote Here On The Brewer Deal

All this debatin' & stuff is giving me a headache. So let's take a quick, non-scientific poll: what do you think of the Brewer deal?

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Not what I wou'd've done if I was Lowe... I'd rake him over the coals in arbitration.

However, I can tolerate the deal, and as long as both sides come out of this happy and there's no risk of a crazy arb. award.

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Fair deal for a young defenseman who leads his team in minutes played.

IMHO Brewer > McCabe.

Brewer gets a small raise, Lowe gets the player he wants, and there are no hard feelings. That said, good deal for both sides.

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You are missing one option. Fair deal.

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That would be option three, where it says "fair". </FONT>

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I think Brewer actually maybe got the better end of this deal IF he plays excellent this season...then he can goto arbitration again and get a big pay raise, or just get a pay raise without the arbitration

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What I want to know is... what are the bonuses? It's only fair if those aren't unreasonable.

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I am fine with this deal as I believe we have to start thinking more in terms of putting a team together and not a collection of POTENTIALS. Its one thing to argue like Mc Cabe that he is way over paid, we are arguing over whether a guy is 6% over paid. Lets just get on with it.

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What about the option:

This deal isn't the problem, it was the mangled structuring of the previous contract that now makes Brewer overpaid

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I agree meanashell... I didn't like the money Brewer or Isbister got although I was okay with Conklin's signing. However, its really easy to sit on the sideline and say that "Lowe should do this or that", because we really don't know all the details. We're not talking about obvious cases where Lowe can simply walk away and make Brewer a UFA because he's so grossly overpaid.

Some of the things he might know better than us:

- what happens in a typical arbitration process (how the judge hears the case)
- the likelyhood of finding a cheaper replacement for Brewer should he cost too much
- Brewer/Meehan's conviction going in to arbitration
- the value Brewer has in the dressing room/amongst teammates
- the uncertainty an arbitrator's award will cast on doing other deals (such as lessen Brewer's trade value or limit the budget for signing a Nedved-type)
- Each defenseman's injury situation (if Staios & Smith both have nagging injuries that might reduce their effectiveness - does that make Brewer more valuable?)

I do think Lowe set the bar too high with Brewer's last contract.
I think Lowe could've got a better deal this time around.
I would've loved to see Brewer squirm in arbitration as Lowe tried to have his salary reduced.

But I'd hate to see Brewer hating the Oilers' org, flourishing somewhere else, or be awarded with a contract that would tie our hands.

It sucks, but with a 6% raise lets move on.

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Lowe is a genius, especially since the deal is incentive laden. i'm not sure of the exact incentive terms. but Brewer got a 6% raise, just 165 K raise, for the minutes he played, and his value to this team, there is no doubt in my mind he would've gotten a bigger raise then that through arbitration.


Does anyone have any details of the bonuses, which bonuses he has to achieve & how much he gets if he reaches them. I think I saw that +/- was one of the bonuses, i'm not sure about the others.

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