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08-05-2004, 02:31 PM
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In Dopita's case, maybe that has to do with the old CBA? Dopita was drafted first in 92...


...And Samsonov was drafted ONCE.
http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisp...id%5B%5D=15609
That's exactly what I thought about Samsonov... the guy must've been talking about another Sergei hehe..

Anyways about the Europeans players and their NHL rights, there might in fact be a certain age (I think it's 31 - like the UFA group V players) where they can opt back into the draft but most of the times when a player has reached this age it's because the NHL team never had interest to sign him or he was good enough to play in the NHL but wanted to play his career in his home country.... and that was the case with Dopita, at first he didn't want to come over to NA and prefered to stay in Czech republic. I don't know why but he changed his mind and he must've been old enough to re-enter the draft and that's what he did. Anyways that's just what I think using what I remember... but it would ahve to be looked up...

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08-05-2004, 02:36 PM
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Kyle Chipchura is a very similar player to Mikko Koivu.

With ONE BIG EXCEPTION;
He is CANADIAN


The Habs are getting way too Euro top heavy ,can you say the Senators of the 90's.
I don't see the big thing about "getting too Euro"..... Mikko Koivu is liek 6'5' and plays a very physical play. If getting too Euro means ahving centermen the size of Mikko Koivu then the Ottawa Senators of the 90's probably would've won a cup or two....

Now if you meant "getting too soft" well it's stupid to use the term Euro to get your poitn accross (the whole soft euro thing is getting old there are gritty Euros and there are soft NA so who cares) and the Habs wouldn't be getting softer at all by adding Mikko K to their line-up.

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About the only thing Savard did right as G.M. in Montreal was by accident.

Um...Linden and Zubrus for Zednik, Bulis, and Perezhogin?

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Mikko has Saku's fireball attitude, just he has the size to go along with it.

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Mikko has Saku's fireball attitude, just he has the size to go along with it.
Except Mikko lacks the elite skills Saku has that go along with the fireball attitude.

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Um...Linden and Zubrus for Zednik, Bulis, and Perezhogin?
Linden and Zubrus have done about the same since the deal as Zednik and Bulis. Plus the Caps dealt Linden for the #17 overall pick in the 2002 draft. They got Boyd Gordon who has already played an NHL season even though he is a year younger than Perezhogin. The deal is fairly even to this point. Caps got Nathan Paetsch as well with the pick Montreal included. Next season Gordon will likely be in the NHL again and Paetsch may be, but there is virtually no chance that Perezhogin will be.

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Linden and Zubrus have done about the same since the deal as Zednik and Bulis. Plus the Caps dealt Linden for the #17 overall pick in the 2002 draft. They got Boyd Gordon who has already played an NHL season even though he is a year younger than Perezhogin. The deal is fairly even to this point. Caps got Nathan Paetsch as well with the pick Montreal included. Next season Gordon will likely be in the NHL again and Paetsch may be, but there is virtually no chance that Perezhogin will be.
Doesnt mean squat. I could crack Caps lineup

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Linden and Zubrus have done about the same since the deal as Zednik and Bulis. Plus the Caps dealt Linden for the #17 overall pick in the 2002 draft. They got Boyd Gordon who has already played an NHL season even though he is a year younger than Perezhogin. The deal is fairly even to this point. Caps got Nathan Paetsch as well with the pick Montreal included. Next season Gordon will likely be in the NHL again and Paetsch may be, but there is virtually no chance that Perezhogin will be.
If Perezhogin was a Capital, he would have had some playing time last year in the NHL. There's no doubt in my mind about that one. Furthermore, Linden and Zubrus do not make the same impact on the Habs as Zednik and Bulis have done. Linden was a decent player, but he was underperforming at best in Montreal, and Zubrus is STILL tryng to live up to his billing as the next star.

Meanwhile, Zednik has put up career highs in every catergory in a MOntreal Uniform, including a strong 30 goal season, and leading the team again in goals this past season. Bulis is a strong performer, that can be utilized on any line you put him on. I have always thought this was Savard's best move as GM (getting these 2 players).

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If BG is really wanting to put together a brother act, he should be setting his sights on drafting the younger Ryder and Kostitsyn.

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If BG is really wanting to put together a brother act, he should be setting his sights on drafting the younger Ryder and Kostitsyn.
The younger Ryder I'm excited about, the younger kostsitsyn I have never heard.

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If Perezhogin was a Capital, he would have had some playing time last year in the NHL. There's no doubt in my mind about that one. Furthermore, Linden and Zubrus do not make the same impact on the Habs as Zednik and Bulis have done. Linden was a decent player, but he was underperforming at best in Montreal, and Zubrus is STILL tryng to live up to his billing as the next star.

Meanwhile, Zednik has put up career highs in every catergory in a MOntreal Uniform, including a strong 30 goal season, and leading the team again in goals this past season. Bulis is a strong performer, that can be utilized on any line you put him on. I have always thought this was Savard's best move as GM (getting these 2 players).
Yes it was Savard's best trade...and IMO Montreal got the better side of it but that doesn't really matter. Who cares how the Caps did and hwo the plaeyrs tehy received did, if you look at it as Savard's best trade you have to look at it from the Montreal perspective: they received players who have been regulars and played very well for them and gave away two players that weren't producing in Montreal. They also got Pereshogin in return who has a bright future, alot brighter than Nathan Paetsh. Anyways even if Zubrus does brek out and becomes that power-two-way forward everyone thought he'd become, well it's still Savard's best trade because of the players we received.

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If BG is really wanting to put together a brother act, he should be setting his sights on drafting the younger Ryder and Kostitsyn.
Why not trade for the older Hossa??? Imagine... both Hossa's on the same line... with Sylvain Blouin on the LW cuz BG would've traded the whole team to acquire arian lol.

Anyways the Bure showed us that brothers play well at all-star games when it's jsut for fun but that's about where it ends...

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Linden and Zubrus have done about the same since the deal as Zednik and Bulis. Plus the Caps dealt Linden for the #17 overall pick in the 2002 draft. They got Boyd Gordon who has already played an NHL season even though he is a year younger than Perezhogin. The deal is fairly even to this point. Caps got Nathan Paetsch as well with the pick Montreal included. Next season Gordon will likely be in the NHL again and Paetsch may be, but there is virtually no chance that Perezhogin will be.
Paetsch was never signed and re-entered the draft last year and was drafted by Buffalo

And for Gordon he will likely play in the AHL, 6 points in 41 games is not really great for a winger. You can say it was only his rookie season on a bad team but that was the case for Semin too and he did well.


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