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01-20-2009, 12:35 PM
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Jason Arnott?

Would this guy fit as a centre instead of Pleks?

I'm thinking that we may need a big body down the middle.

He's 34 years old. 6'4", 220 punds. Shoots right.

Played in 100 playoff games. Scored 28 goals, 36 assists for 64 points.

Looks like Nashville won't be in the playoff picture. He's sgned for a couple of more years at 4.5 mill. A possible trade deadline acquasition?

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01-20-2009, 12:38 PM
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willing to trade pleks or lang for arnott? koivu is not moving with his NTC and lapierre and begin/chip have no value to nashville's eyes if they get rid of jason arnott...well in my opinion

i like him but i dont see a trade happening

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01-20-2009, 12:40 PM
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I would love to see Jason Arnott in a Habs uniform. He is big and he can do things with the puck. He can score goals and set them up too, plus he can throw some big hits and move guys around.

I like Pleks and I think he is a great player, but he doesn't necessarily have the size to handle the rough stuff, and when your in the playoffs, you need to be able to handle the rough style of hockey or you don't have a chance. I think Arnott can handle that style of hockey and still put points on the board.

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01-20-2009, 12:45 PM
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I would love to see Jason Arnott in a Habs uniform. He is big and he can do things with the puck. He can score goals and set them up too, plus he can throw some big hits and move guys around.

I like Pleks and I think he is a great player, but he doesn't necessarily have the size to handle the rough stuff, and when your in the playoffs, you need to be able to handle the rough style of hockey or you don't have a chance. I think Arnott can handle that style of hockey and still put points on the board.

This is exactly what I was thinking. I like Pleks. He's young and has a promising future, but....

We need that big body.

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01-20-2009, 12:52 PM
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Gainey should draft a few big physical centers, get one from within.

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I wouldn't mind trying to get Arnott from Nashville. I think he would be a good fit on this team. Trading Pleks in a package to land him wouldn't be so bad as we hopefully have Maxwell coming up in a year or 2 to replace him.

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Would this guy fit as a centre instead of Pleks?

I'm thinking that we may need a big body down the middle.

He's 34 years old. 6'4", 220 punds. Shoots right.

Played in 100 playoff games. Scored 28 goals, 36 assists for 64 points.

Looks like Nashville won't be in the playoff picture. He's sgned for a couple of more years at 4.5 mill. A possible trade deadline acquasition?
The $4.5 million is the killer... we would have no room to maneuver for next year.

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This is exactly what I was thinking. I like Pleks. He's young and has a promising future, but....

We need that big body.
Yeah, Lang sure is tiny.

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If he was a UFA, I'd be all for it.

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If he was a UFA, I'd be all for it.
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BG made an offer to Arnott, IIRC but Nashville outbid us.

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BG made an offer to Arnott, IIRC but Nashville outbid us.
Yep, and wasn't that the same year when we also lost out on Elias?

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Would this guy fit as a centre instead of Pleks?

I'm thinking that we may need a big body down the middle.

He's 34 years old. 6'4", 220 punds. Shoots right.

Played in 100 playoff games. Scored 28 goals, 36 assists for 64 points.

Looks like Nashville won't be in the playoff picture. He's sgned for a couple of more years at 4.5 mill. A possible trade deadline acquasition?

And that my friend is the reason why Gainey won't even call Nashville.If he was an UFA then maybe but even at then im really happy with Lang and would rather give him a minute or two of extra ice time

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If he was a UFA, I'd be all for it.
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If he was a UFA, he'd sign with Nashville, remember?

That's what actually happened when we wanted him.



EDIT: sorry, someone already mentioned it.

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01-20-2009, 01:25 PM
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So it seems that most don't want Arnott because of his salary over the next few years.

I just thought that we needed to do something this year for the playoff push.

Yes, Lang is great. We won't be getting rid of him. I just thought that adding another big center might be what we need. Looks like Vinny won't be coming.

Ifnot a big Centre than another D man would be great.
Jay Bow. I think this has been worn out. I would love this guy on D with the Habs....even if its for only this year.

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Yah well I meant, if we could acquire him at the deadline

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01-20-2009, 01:30 PM
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robert lang says hello!

no way they trade Arnott, he is solid for them and he is locked up! they have no reason to do it!

besides habs dont need center they need D!
Koivu is back soon to take on the Top 3 center role!

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01-20-2009, 01:34 PM
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Arnott would be smart. I would do a Pleks for Arnott trade in a heartbeat. I think Pleks will be a nice player long-term, but the expectations of being our top center has killed him. Arnott is just as good or better defensively too.

Arnott's contract is decent too. He did put up more points last year (and this year) than Pleks too. Remember we have to re-sign Pleks. What will it take? $4M? So it's a wash really.

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I wouldn't trade Plekanec for Arnott. I'm not sure if Nashville will think of themselves as sellers, but they like Arnott, don't they? I think of Arnott like I used to think of Hamrlik and Lang... kinda wishy-washy despite whatever size or numbers they had going for them. I am happy to have been wrong about how valuable Hamrlik and Lang have been to us, maybe Arnott would be similar. He has had some nagging health problems, though.

My bottom line would be "it ain't broke", and I'd generally not be trying too hard to fix things based on players who seem to be reasonably well established in their current locales. Shopping for the more obvious players (either by dint of impending UFAdom or their teams being clear sellers) that we might be able to get with pure futures would be my preference.

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01-20-2009, 01:41 PM
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Okay, fine, but is our Defense broke? Should we aim at upgrading that position for the playoff push?

So we'll keep pleks and go after a D.

Markov
Komi
Hamirlik
Gorges
Boullion????
Brisebois???

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Okay, fine, but is our Defense broke? Should we aim at upgrading that position for the playoff push?

So we'll keep pleks and go after a D.

Markov
Komi
Hamirlik
Gorges
Boullion????
Brisebois???
I don't think the D is broke either. But at least there the potential for an upgrade is somewhat clearer. It's still all down to the cost-benefit analysis to me, though. I wouldn't give up a longterm asset to get somebody who makes us a little better there in the shorterm, since we seem to be doing fine defensively. A cheap depth pickup might be ok, in case we get more injuries. But Bouillon and Brisebois are playing like totally respectable 3rd pairing players, and Gorges has stepped up into a totally respectable #4 guy. So there's a definite limit to how hard I'd go after upgrades there.

There might have been more motivation back in the days of Komisarek being hurt and the PP struggling more. Those days could return... or not. I don't know. I wouldn't be distraught if nothing was done on the D either. Picking up a Sean O'Donnell or whatever else is bandied about for a draft pick might help. Giving up tons to rent Jay Bouwemeester... well, less interesting. Anyway, Florida is inconveniently staying in the playoff hunt to mess up everybody's plans on that one.

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01-20-2009, 02:01 PM
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I don't think the D is broke either. But at least there the potential for an upgrade is somewhat clearer. It's still all down to the cost-benefit analysis to me, though. I wouldn't give up a longterm asset to get somebody who makes us a little better there in the shorterm, since we seem to be doing fine defensively. A cheap depth pickup might be ok, in case we get more injuries. But Bouillon and Brisebois are playing like totally respectable 3rd pairing players, and Gorges has stepped up into a totally respectable #4 guy. So there's a definite limit to how hard I'd go after upgrades there.

There might have been more motivation back in the days of Komisarek being hurt and the PP struggling more. Those days could return... or not. I don't know. I wouldn't be distraught if nothing was done on the D either. Picking up a Sean O'Donnell or whatever else is bandied about for a draft pick might help. Giving up tons to rent Jay Bouwemeester... well, less interesting. Anyway, Florida is inconveniently staying in the playoff hunt to mess up everybody's plans on that one.

Wow, Florida tied with Pittsburgh for 8th spot. Florida having two games in hand.
I guess I'm just so interested in all the hype of Montreal doing so well, 100 year anniversary and all. I would make a terrible GM...haaaaaaa.
Thanks for your input Blind Guardien.
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If it ain't broke don't fix it.

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It ll be more than likely Montreal will go through this year without a major trade unless they're getting a good deal.

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