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01-22-2009, 01:10 PM
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to be fair, Mikey, this is his preseason. A lot of players are currently better than they were in the first few games of the season. The time to judge Sundin will be in March.
Agreed, with the exception of Voros , Dubi and Z..

but by March it will be too late to garner any benefit from having him in the lineup.

Maybe this question should be asked in March.

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01-22-2009, 01:12 PM
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Agreed, with the exception of Voros , Dubi and Z..

but by March it will be too late to garner any benefit from having him in the lineup.

Maybe this question should be asked in March.
How would it be too late, if he gets going in march, that means he'll be in a groove during the crucial part of the playoff race, as well as the playoffs.

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01-22-2009, 01:21 PM
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We wouldn't be able to tell if its regrettable or not.

And by that time your pretty much stuck with him if he's good or bad.

I forsee Sundin sucking it up the rest of the year because of his hiatus.

And frankly the only way I would regret it is if Vancouver wins the cup.

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not having Sundin?
I'm sure Sundin is the one regretting it.

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Watching him the other night in San Jose, boy you guys said Shanny was too slow, Sundin looks like he's skating with cement shoes.

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Considering how this team has been playing lately and the fact they are in good shape i do not regret not getting him. If the team was down in 8th place or something then I would think different but thats not the case.

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yeah, I do

he's been a consistent 70-80 point producer for a the last decade. I don't believe he forgot how over a few months off.

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01-22-2009, 04:26 PM
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I want the Mats Sundin of 1992-93
I'd rather have the Naslund of 02-03

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I'd rather have the Naslund of 02-03
Neither of us will get out wish, its fun to dream

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not having Sundin?
Meh i'm over it.......SO over it actually.

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01-22-2009, 04:48 PM
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Go ask a Canucks fan. 1 win followed by 6 straight losses since he joined the team. Obviously, he was not the messiah that SO many people here made him out to be.

There was a thread on the main board about The Canucks missing the P/O's

Anyway there is & always will be ONE TRUE MESSIAH & THAT IS MARK MESSIER!

All others are false Messiahs & should be stoned accordingly.

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I think Forsberg had a setback, so I doubt he even plays this season.
I doubt he ever plays again.

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I'm sure Sundin is the one regretting it.
I hope so. Cause that means we never really needed him to begin with.

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01-22-2009, 06:58 PM
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I never wanted him in the first place

I didnt want someone on the team who didnt know whether he wanted to play or not, for the whole pre-season and 30+ into the season he was undecided that told me enough.

Its different with someone like Forsberg who you can tell loves the game and would give everything just to be able to play pain free, if Forsberg wanted to come to the Rangers for one last go at the cup i would love to have him, if anything he'd help the PP,.

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01-23-2009, 08:30 AM
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I don't want someone on my team who has to take six months to decide whether he even wants to play that sport. Now I know he's had a long career, and I don't consider him taking as long as he did as bad as a25yr old did it, but to me that was a big warning that sundin just doesn't have the fire in the belly that a team needs its players to have to win the cup.

yeah he could help in the scoring goals department and obviously that is someplace we need help in but i think the lack of goals is just a symptom of our bigger problem, lack of grit, heart and other intangibles that can not be measured.

I was so pissed off at the front office for letting both Shanahan and Avery go (I was sad to see Jagr go, but I don't blame anyone for that). I can understand not wanting to keep both. Shanahan had a disappointing season lastyear and he's up their in years and Avery, while personally my favorite hockey player, is a PR nightmare (and we know how important that is to the Dolans) and he was asking for a lot of money. But both of them? I'm sorry, they both had obvious weaknesses, but thats what happens in a sport played by men and not computers. They should have sucked it up and signed one of them. Shanny had a meager 46 points last year. Yeah thats not impressive. But he missed ten games, and who knows how many he played hurt. Plus he was asking for so little money.

And if we parted with Shanahan, we could have used the 2.5 mil we paid him last season on resigning Avery.

I know this is **** that everyone knows. Or at least those who have actually put on skates and played the game. But its so frustrating to watch your teams management focus on player's stats instead of whether or not they will help the team win championships. I would have thought by now that a sports team that plays in the same city as a football team made up of "nobodies" won the superbowl lastseason and a baseball team with the highest payroll in baseball (or any sports) history thanks to signing talented but ballless statpackers who don't even know what country they play for can't make the playoffs would understand that winning requires players of a certain mindset and determination.

Instead we get a front office so focused on replacing the unreplaceable Jagr, that they spent months chasing after a guy who didn't even know if he wanted to play, then signed a bunch of talented could-have-beens to crazy contracts and drove out of town the components of the teams they needed to keep.

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01-23-2009, 08:33 AM
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Sundin

Err, let me check..... Nope

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Sundin, at the very least, would be a hit at the Rangers Casino Night. I'm sure Drury, Gomez, and Redden would go "all-in" on every hand since they have the resources to do so.

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