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01-25-2009, 11:00 AM
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Sather talks about Messier's possible FO role with NYRS

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Sather, who's been the Rangers' GM since 2000, isn't sure what Messier wants to do, exactly. But his door is open. "A couple of years ago we talked and he wasn't that keen on being a scout, but I think he's refined that," said Sather. "I'm sure this summer Mark and I will have another conversation about it. He's got a good eye for talent. And the scouting, it's not just the NHL, it's going to places like Sudbury (junior) and Hartford (their AHL farm club) and going to meetings and filing reports."

Sather feels Messier could be a GM someday."I'm sure Mark could do it, but he has to decide that's what he wants to do. I tell guys all the time that hockey isn't a job, it's a way of life," said Sather. Messier's name has always come up as a possible coach, somewhere, but Sather isn't sure that's his best path. "Coaching is not easy. It's stressful as hell, hard work," said Sather, who was coach and GM here
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Messier the Rangers exec is right around the corner

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If he works his way up from Scout to AGM to GM, I would have no issue. I just think it'd be horrid for him to just jump into the GM position.

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Then when Phoenix collapses we can bring in Wayne as coach!


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If he works his way up from Scout to AGM to GM, I would have no issue. I just think it'd be horrid for him to just jump into the GM position.
I agree in principle. My concern, however, is that it was always clear that Mess had "his" guys when he was playing - and that kind of narrow view on players is extremely limiting and potentially catestrophic in a GM's position. I'd want to see proof that he could truly be objective before getting on board the bandwagon to have him become GM.

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Then when Phoenix collapses we can bring in Wayne as coach!

If you think Renney is bad with line combos......Gretzky is a whole other animal

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to the mamalukes who bashed sather for going on trips (ie the latest in edmonton)..that's the only time we get soundbites from this guy. you should be grateful he goes to a place that gets us some different, interesting information about the club.

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Matheson reported these other Rangers tidbits today.He spoke to Glen

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The Rangers didn't want Brendan Shanahan back as a player but did offer an assistant-coaching job this year, that he obviously wasn't interested in.

The Rangers did counsel Dallas Stars' Brett Hull that it wouldn't be a good idea to bring in Sean Avery this season because he was a lousy teammate, more than anything, but Hull thought he could handle him
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http://www.edmontonjournal.com/sport...998/story.html

Sather shed some light on Mark's future with the Rangers and on a few other topics

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Maybe if Shanny took the assistant coaching job Pearn would've been fired

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Messier the Rangers exec is right around the corner
Messier will forever be my favorite player, leader and what not. For his play prior to the trapping era.

But I seriously think he would be a disaster anywhere near a hockeyteam these days. The game of hockey have changed, and its obviously extremely hard for someone who have had a ton of success in the game of hockey, to accept that it, the game, have changed.

You don't win on will-power and talent alone these days. Slats didn't even get that 2003. Its a extreme team game. A drilled Swiss team with 2 borderline NHLers got a serious chance against the best of Canada thrown together. Thats a fact.

I am sure Messier would become a great leader if he realized that. But I don't think he will -- ever. He didn't either get it 2003. After trapping hockey had dominated for atleast 8 years. Why would he get it 2009 after 14 years?

Look at Steve Yzerman. He is at every international tournaments. In the stands for AHL games. He sits in at Detroits organization meetings et c.

He will become a great leader. Mess obviously think he could do it right away on will and stubborness.

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Slats isn't getting it in 2009. Thats why JJ is playing in Russia this season. Thats why we change 50% of the roster every summer.

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Mess obviously think he could do it right away on will and stubborness.
Where did you get this from? By the sounds of that article Mess has realized that if he does want to be in the front office that's how he'll start out

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Messier will forever be my favorite player, leader and what not. For his play prior to the trapping era.

But I seriously think he would be a disaster anywhere near a hockeyteam these days. The game of hockey have changed, and its obviously extremely hard for someone who have had a ton of success in the game of hockey, to accept that it, the game, have changed.

You don't win on will-power and talent alone these days. Slats didn't even get that 2003. Its a extreme team game. A drilled Swiss team with 2 borderline NHLers got a serious chance against the best of Canada thrown together. Thats a fact.

I am sure Messier would become a great leader if he realized that. But I don't think he will -- ever. He didn't either get it 2003. After trapping hockey had dominated for atleast 8 years. Why would he get it 2009 after 14 years?

Look at Steve Yzerman. He is at every international tournaments. In the stands for AHL games. He sits in at Detroits organization meetings et c.

He will become a great leader. Mess obviously think he could do it right away on will and stubborness.

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