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08-08-2004, 12:58 AM
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Brook Orpiks?

How good is Brook Orpiks? .. it's tough to know is value because he play with the worst team of the league..but.. what's you take on Orpiks?

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How good is Brook Orpiks? .. it's tough to know is value because he play with the worst team of the league..but.. what's you take on Orpiks?

As a Pens fan I will try not to be a homer. Orpik is going to be a valuable pillar of the future Pens D. A devastating open-ice hitter with good position and hockey sense, Orpik has the ability to be a Mark Tinordi with better skating. When he was drafted some even compared him to Scott Stevens - admittedly an overly optimistic comparison, at this point of Orpik's development. But Orpik definitely has the tool to become a very physical, punishing defensive dman for years to come.

While his offense is nothing to write home about, Orpik has a smooth skating stride and an underrated first pass. More often than not he will be content to stay back and take care of his own end, as opposed to attempting offense. But he is actually not a bad passer.

What he will be known for, however, is his hitting. In his first full year of NHL hockey, playing on the Pens defense, Orpik was the most consistently physical and steady defenseman we had all season. On many nights he was our best defenseman. Opposing forwards are beginning to become more aware and careful when they enter the Pens zone when Orpik is on the ice.

Orpik has the raw hitting power of a Stevens. What he needs to improve on are his timing, positioning, and decision-making. He still gets caught out of position every once in a while, but then again he is still a rookie. He is also quietly becoming a leader, and it is not unlikely that he will be the Pens future captain.

All in all, I see a bit of Tinordi or a faster Brandon Witt as Orpik's full potential. He is a future #2 or #3 mainstay for the Pens.

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His most memorable moment from last season was definetly the open ice hit he made on i believe it was Holik that ended up taking out 2 Rangers players and springing the Penguins on an odd man break which was converted.

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All I know is in NHL 2004 he is amazing on My Sabres dynasty...i picked him up and he's great for hits, and goals and what not.

I'm pretty sure he should be one great D Man in the future...

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That said, I'd still trade him (maybe even a 2nd) to the Bruins for the great Ian Moran in a heartbeat.

Who's with me? Who's with me?

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That said, I'd still trade him (maybe even a 2nd) to the Bruins for the great Ian Moran in a heartbeat.

Who's with me? Who's with me?
Yup, you can't put a price on versatility

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Yup, you can't put a price on versatility
******* yeah! I'd like to see Orpik play 4th line wing for one shift!

Useless stiff, that Orpik...

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As a Pens fan I will try not to be a homer. Orpik is going to be a valuable pillar of the future Pens D. A devastating open-ice hitter with good position and hockey sense, Orpik has the ability to be a Mark Tinordi with better skating. When he was drafted some even compared him to Scott Stevens - admittedly an overly optimistic comparison, at this point of Orpik's development. But Orpik definitely has the tool to become a very physical, punishing defensive dman for years to come.

While his offense is nothing to write home about, Orpik has a smooth skating stride and an underrated first pass. More often than not he will be content to stay back and take care of his own end, as opposed to attempting offense. But he is actually not a bad passer.

What he will be known for, however, is his hitting. In his first full year of NHL hockey, playing on the Pens defense, Orpik was the most consistently physical and steady defenseman we had all season. On many nights he was our best defenseman. Opposing forwards are beginning to become more aware and careful when they enter the Pens zone when Orpik is on the ice.

Orpik has the raw hitting power of a Stevens. What he needs to improve on are his timing, positioning, and decision-making. He still gets caught out of position every once in a while, but then again he is still a rookie. He is also quietly becoming a leader, and it is not unlikely that he will be the Pens future captain.

All in all, I see a bit of Tinordi or a faster Brandon Witt as Orpik's full potential. He is a future #2 or #3 mainstay for the Pens.
Not homerish at all. This is a pretty good assesment of what I've seen as well. He's one of my favorite young players.

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not to be a homer but...Orpik>God


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One of the few prospects hyped by his respective team to live up to the hype in some years.

They said he'd kill you with his hip, well he killed many a fool with his hip last year.

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not to be a homer but...Orpik>God


Hmm, if what you're saying is true, then allow me to indulge myself in a lil' logical deduction game:

1) You claim that Orpik>God.
2) Raider Zero, the Pens board mod, claims that Mario=God

Therefore, Orpik > Mario.


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As a Pens fan I will try not to be a homer. Orpik is going to be a valuable pillar of the future Pens D. A devastating open-ice hitter with good position and hockey sense, Orpik has the ability to be a Mark Tinordi with better skating. When he was drafted some even compared him to Scott Stevens - admittedly an overly optimistic comparison, at this point of Orpik's development. But Orpik definitely has the tool to become a very physical, punishing defensive dman for years to come.

While his offense is nothing to write home about, Orpik has a smooth skating stride and an underrated first pass. More often than not he will be content to stay back and take care of his own end, as opposed to attempting offense. But he is actually not a bad passer.

What he will be known for, however, is his hitting. In his first full year of NHL hockey, playing on the Pens defense, Orpik was the most consistently physical and steady defenseman we had all season. On many nights he was our best defenseman. Opposing forwards are beginning to become more aware and careful when they enter the Pens zone when Orpik is on the ice.

Orpik has the raw hitting power of a Stevens. What he needs to improve on are his timing, positioning, and decision-making. He still gets caught out of position every once in a while, but then again he is still a rookie. He is also quietly becoming a leader, and it is not unlikely that he will be the Pens future captain.

All in all, I see a bit of Tinordi or a faster Brandon Witt as Orpik's full potential. He is a future #2 or #3 mainstay for the Pens.


Thats a perfect description of Orpik, Although I think he has a slightly more potential than you give him credit for.....but Witt is a good comparison...Either way hellbe solid NHL D-man, gotta love them guys from Buffalo

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so glad that Orpik's name isn't Brook Orpiks

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I love this guy, I see a potential top pairing defenseman personally, but I don't watch all that often, they need to get him a guy like Kimmo Timonen to play with.

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I love this guy, I see a potential top pairing defenseman personally, but I don't watch all that often, they need to get him a guy like Kimmo Timonen to play with.
Ryan Whitney.

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Hmm, if what you're saying is true, then allow me to indulge myself in a lil' logical deduction game:

1) You claim that Orpik>God.
2) Raider Zero, the Pens board mod, claims that Mario=God

Therefore, Orpik > Mario.

nah, cant get higher than omnipotence. besides, im the mod, and im right regardless if i am wrong

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That said, I'd still trade him (maybe even a 2nd) to the Bruins for the great Ian Moran in a heartbeat.

Who's with me? Who's with me?
moaran was great and all but I'll pass on that one we had enough laughs while the pens were on the ice

im sure you were just jagging me!

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