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01-29-2009, 11:31 AM
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Potential availability of Pronger and Niedermayer

"Rumors are starting to circulate that both Pronger and Scott Niedermayer could be available at the trading deadline, according to the Orange County Register"

i hope BG would make a serious attempt at getting Nieds ! Him and Marky on the PP.WOW !


http://www.ocregister.com/articles/m...6-season-group

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01-29-2009, 11:33 AM
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At least Burky is not there anymore... could happen, but you better cross your fingers.

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I'd rather Pronger. the asking price on both could very well be too high for what Gainey would be willing to part with.

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I really hate the guy but I would rather have Pronger

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I really hate the guy but I would rather have Pronger
Same!

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I would kill a small child to have Pronger on this team.

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I'd rather Pronger. the asking price on both could very well be too high for what Gainey would be willing to part with.
Definitely, from what we've seen in the past, these kind of players will require a huge overpayment

The offer would have to be something like this
To MTL:
Pronger

To ANH:
Hammer
Higgins
2 firsts

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You may underrate Niedermayer's leadership.. This guy wins everywhere he goes.. He spend hours to prepare for the games.. I dont know what the price would be but I would be highly interested in Nieds.. Pronger is too inconsistent for me, I would pass..

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Definitely, from what we've seen in the past, these kind of players will require a huge overpayment

The offer would have to be something like this
To MTL:
Pronger

To ANH:
Hammer
Higgins
2 firsts
While Hamrlik is having a tough time recently, you can count on him when the real season starts.. Anaheim would want youth anyway..


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Nieder will not be moved, he dosent want to play anywhere else than in Anaheim.
Pronger is a head case, do you think he will want to play in another Canadian city after Edmonton?

I hear Sean Avery is available, lets start making some proposals...

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Definitely, from what we've seen in the past, these kind of players will require a huge overpayment

The offer would have to be something like this
To MTL:
Pronger

To ANH:
Hammer
Higgins
2 firsts
I can't see anyone paying that much. Both guys could really help a contender, but they are no longter the players they were.

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I'd rather Pronger. the asking price on both could very well be too high for what Gainey would be willing to part with.
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I really hate the guy but I would rather have Pronger
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Same!
LMAO

God I'm begining to be really annoyed with all this luv for big lugnuts who have grit and make dirty plays.

Okay, without Nieds, Pronger = no cups

Nieds, 4 cups, one Conn Smythe, one Norris (actually won it when Lids was winning it year after year).

Pronger, one cup, one norris



You don't need to hit the other player to make a good defensive move. We already have Komi, Hammer and OB who are big. I'd take Nieds ANY DAY over Pronger.

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^ Yeah, and look at your own evidence to find out which of the two would cost more...

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Why on earth would either be available? Anaheim is in the middle of the pack, in a playoff position. Pronger has already demonstrated he chooses where he plays, he'd never accept a trade to Montreal.

Niedermayer has all but said its his last year, then retirement.

Sounds like hogwash.

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LMAO

God I'm begining to be really annoyed with all this luv for big lugnuts who have grit and make dirty plays.

Okay, without Nieds, Pronger = no cups

Nieds, 4 cups, one Conn Smythe, one Norris (actually won it when Lids was winning it year after year).

Pronger, one cup, one norris



You don't need to hit the other player to make a good defensive move. We already have Komi, Hammer and OB who are big. I'd take Nieds ANY DAY over Pronger.
Thats funny because those "lug nuts" were intergral parts of every championship Niedermeyer won. Hmmm...Scott Stevens? Hmmm...Ken Daneko? Hmmm...Pronger?

Big body presence, defensively efficient and a mean streak which we sorely lack.

But no lets take the older, wayyyy past his prime Niedermeyer. Good choice.

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Why on earth would either be available? Anaheim is in the middle of the pack, in a playoff position. Pronger has already demonstrated he chooses where he plays, he'd never accept a trade to Montreal.

Niedermayer has all but said its his last year, then retirement.

Sounds like hogwash.
READ the link in the OP, this is from Murrays mouth directly !

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LMAO

God I'm begining to be really annoyed with all this luv for big lugnuts who have grit and make dirty plays.

Okay, without Nieds, Pronger = no cups

Nieds, 4 cups, one Conn Smythe, one Norris (actually won it when Lids was winning it year after year).

Pronger, one cup, one norris



You don't need to hit the other player to make a good defensive move. We already have Komi, Hammer and OB who are big. I'd take Nieds ANY DAY over Pronger.
You forgot a Hart trophy in there, somewhere.

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Thats funny because those "lug nuts" were intergral parts of every championship Niedermeyer won. Hmmm...Scott Stevens? Hmmm...Ken Daneko? Hmmm...Pronger?

Big body presence, defensively efficient and a mean streak which we sorely lack.

But no lets take the older, wayyyy past his prime Niedermeyer. Good choice.
We already have Komi. Sorry but Neidermayer is way more valuable to win a cup, leadership and experience. Pronger never won a cup before he went to Anaheim to join Neidermayer and guess who was named MVP in those playoffs, and it wasn't Pronger.

Yeah, get back to reality, he's so out of his prime that he only has 3 points less than Pronger this season

And Pronger is only 2 years younger than Niedermayer.

What we really lack is a puck-moving Dman. Niedermayer has that and he's also way more efficient defensively than Pronger.

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You forgot a Hart trophy in there, somewhere.
Oh yeah, in 2000, but they choked in the first round of the playoffs. Theodore also won a Hart trophy.

I'll take the guy who won the Conn Smythe over the one who won the Hart.

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Oh man, Chris Pronger, now that would be absolute Plan A if ever becomes available for real, 6'6 punishing 2-waqy defensmen with a booming shot

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Nieder will not be moved, he dosent want to play anywhere else than in Anaheim.
Pronger is a head case, do you think he will want to play in another Canadian city after Edmonton?

I hear Sean Avery is available, lets start making some proposals...
C'mon, it isn't called Deadmonton for nothing!!

I think he would love it here, could we fetch Bobby Ryan as well or is he too expansive because he's on fire!

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Definitely, from what we've seen in the past, these kind of players will require a huge overpayment
Oilers fan here. Neither the deal that brought Pronger to Edmonton nor the deal that sent him away involved overpays. In fact, the argument could be made that both trades were steals.

From what I've seen of the Habs this year, a guy like Pronger would be just the ticket.

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We already have Komi. Sorry but Neidermayer is way more valuable to win a cup, leadership and experience. Pronger never won a cup before he went to Anaheim to join Neidermayer and guess who was named MVP in those playoffs, and it wasn't Pronger.
Pronger was the 2006 playoff MVP for the Oilers and would have been a shoe-in for the Conn Smythe if not for the flash in the pan Cam Ward.

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What we really lack is a puck-moving Dman. Niedermayer has that and he's also way more efficient defensively than Pronger.
Pronger is a puck moving defenseman and, while he is play seems to have slipped a bit this year, he's still a generational talent on the blueline. He'd also cost less than Nieds to aqcuire. Point being, Nieds would be nice, but you could do worse than Pronger.

The big downside, of course, is that he is a giant d**chebag.

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Oilers fan here. Neither the deal that brought Pronger to Edmonton nor the deal that sent him away involved overpays. In fact, the argument could be made that both trades were steals.

From what I've seen of the Habs this year, a guy like Pronger would be just the ticket.



Pronger was the 2006 playoff MVP for the Oilers and would have been a shoe-in for the Conn Smythe if not for the flash in the pan Cam Ward.



Pronger is a puck moving defenseman and, while he is play seems to have slipped a bit this year, he's still a generational talent on the blueline. He'd also cost less than Nieds to aqcuire. Point being, Nieds would be nice, but you could do worse than Pronger.

The big downside, of course, is that he is a giant d**chebag.
hey I didn't say I wouldn't take Pronger. I said I'd take Nieds over him any day of the week. Wouldn't you?


And yeah, he is a dooche.... and Nieds is a class act.

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Oh yeah, in 2000, but they choked in the first round of the playoffs. Theodore also won a Hart trophy.

I'll take the guy who won the Conn Smythe over the one who won the Hart.
They choked in the first round because they had Roman Turek in net.

Pronger was a shoe-in for the Conn Smythe when he was with the Oilers. That was probably one of the greatest playoff performances I have ever seen and much more dominant than Niedermayer's.

Both are excellent defencemen but the Habs need a physical force which is why I believe Pronger is the better choice. Plus they get to keep him for an extra year as opposed to Niedermayer who becomes an UFA.

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**** Pronger... dirtiest player in the league, as good as he is, I don't want him with this team...

I'd take J-Bo over this two in a split second... espacially because he's UFA... because we can't fit Pronger's salary unless we dump Hamrlik... and good chance with that... and if it happens, I still take J-Bo... he's younger...

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They choked in the first round because they had Roman Turek in net.

Pronger was a shoe-in for the Conn Smythe when he was with the Oilers. That was probably one of the greatest playoff performances I have ever seen and much more dominant than Niedermayer's.

Both are excellent defencemen but the Habs need a physical force which is why I believe Pronger is the better choice. Plus they get to keep him for an extra year as opposed to Niedermayer who becomes an UFA.
Yeah but Nieds being a UFA means he'll cost less on the trading block. And Anaheim is probably less relunctant to trade Nieds considering this. They think might otherwise because of other reasons like internal conflicts, but that, we can't know.

IMO, we don't need that much of a physical force on the D, as we have OB, Komi and Hammer. Its more on the O that we need it. We have a speedy offense that needs better outlet passes to rush out of the zone and Nieds is one of the best for that.

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