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01-29-2009, 11:09 PM
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carbo has gotta come down hard on teh boys right now. everyone needs a good kick in the ass for the pathetic lack of heart and effort we've been seeing the past 4 games. this is embarrassing.

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01-30-2009, 12:32 AM
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Ladies and gentlemen, I PRESENT YOU THE NEW SENS !!!!!

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01-30-2009, 12:41 AM
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Slow down, we're not trash yet

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01-30-2009, 12:43 AM
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lol. RDS just put the players' interviews up on their site and they didn't censor out Price.

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01-30-2009, 12:51 AM
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Calm it down in here... just an other loss. We are pretty much set for playoff action.

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01-30-2009, 01:00 AM
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Calm it down in here... just an other loss. We are pretty much set for playoff action.
The way this team plays they won't get through the 2nd round because they will be easily outmuscled like they were against an inferior Bruins team and against the Flyers.

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01-30-2009, 01:11 AM
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Calm it down in here... just an other loss. We are pretty much set for playoff action.

You forgot this

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01-30-2009, 01:14 AM
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The way this team plays they won't get through the 2nd round because they will be easily outmuscled like they were against an inferior Bruins team and against the Flyers.
B-b-but it's coaching. Look blame Carbo all you want but he has had the same issues with not getting this team to commit physically that Julien, Therrien and Vigneault had. And yet, they managed to do well with others (Therrien was the worst of the three, as he was blessed with talent when he stepped in, Vigneault's style apparently begins to wear off during the 2nd season and after). Julien, the real star of the group, now has a great setup to work with and look at Boston. If we fire Carbo, he may just land on his feet somewhere else and get a GM who knows how to style a team in the coach's image.

Gainey has forgotten whatever smarts it was that helped him put together a very tough team to handle in Dallas. Instead of spicing this team up with scoring gritty types, like the Shane Corsons, Brian Skrudlands, Mike Keanes, Mike McPhees and Claude Lemieuxs of this world, he's got us icing a team full of Murray Wilsons, Kjell Dahlins and Russ Courtnalls and barely anyone with any jam to their game to play alongside. Big mistake. If Carbo isn't really the man, who would make this team better? Not even Scotty Bowman could work with this. He'd go to the GM right away and say "I can't coach effectively with some of these guys. I need them moved out for those who pay the price to win."

The problem in Montreal is that a coach needs to speak French and of all the experienced potential coaches out there (that we didn't employ at any point), there are very few available. We mostly have to pick up first-time coaches. This has been the problem since 1979, where 8 of the 13 coaches were in their first ever head coach job (Geffrion, Lemaire, Perron, Burns, Vigneault, Therrien, Julien, Carbo). To me, firing the coach does little. Gainey needs to re-address the makeup of the team's core. He has a chance in the off-season. Signing Briere a couple years ago would make us barely any better right now and not just cause of injuries. We don't need another smallish, easily neutralized scoring forward. Thank God for Lappy's play lately.


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01-30-2009, 05:50 AM
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like most of us have said for a while, we need a better BEST player on this team, more importantly a better best forward, who will show up game in and game out and contribute on the score sheet every game, i love kovalev but he needs a star player to help him produce at the level he can

when we dont have 1 player like that, what happens is guys like higgins and pleks and even the kostitsyn bros are seen as top players that must score 30 goals a year an get 70 pts a year, and these expectations are way too high for them (just like koivu all these years) while some of them might get to that mark, it probably wont be on a consistant basis or wont produce those numbers season after season

i think andrei kostitsyn can be that player but needs more consistency in his game

i am not saying we should get 3 or 4 of them, one superstar forward with our supporting cast is what we need to go far in the playoffs...sadly, just vinny seems to be the logical choice, or maybe kovalchuk who might be available and can get traded by overpaying for them
the thing is... Carbo will play our future "insert name here" best player 16 min per game, similar to Kostopoulos

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01-30-2009, 06:29 AM
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Wow was not impressed...the team looked like a team from post lock out.....ouch. Time to wake up boys especially if you want the 4th seed.

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01-30-2009, 07:17 AM
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carbo has gotta come down hard on teh boys right now. everyone needs a good kick in the ass for the pathetic lack of heart and effort we've been seeing the past 4 games. this is embarrassing.
It's simple to do. You lengthen their practices and work the crap out of them. Tell them, you either give me 100% in the game and skate your butts off or every practice will be like this. You don't give them any more days off than you have to. If they work hard in the game, you give them an easy practice.

I know I'd get pretty damn tired of skating my guts out during practice when it doesn't mean anything. Seriously... it's not that hard to figure out.

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01-30-2009, 09:01 AM
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Pretty embarassing loss for sure...but I'm not going to panic unless we lose both games this weekend.

Still depressing to watch that game though...man.

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01-30-2009, 09:04 AM
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Saturday... you guys are concerned about Saturday??....

I know the cliche, take one game at a time and don't look ahead.... I think you can field a team of shaved monkeys and they should still beat the kings....

I think you need to worry about Sunday before you worry about Saturday...

I mean...if they do lose saturday and do lose sunday....than that is rock bottom.... but I am confident they will win Saturday and show up to play the Bruins on Sunday

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01-30-2009, 09:04 AM
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Anyone read Boone's About Last Night?

It's kind of depressing because there's too much truth into what he wrote.

http://habsinsideout.com/boone/14634

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01-30-2009, 09:15 AM
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Anyone read Boone's About Last Night?

It's kind of depressing because there's too much truth into what he wrote.

http://habsinsideout.com/boone/14634
I can't disagree with anything.

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Saturday... you guys are concerned about Saturday??....
Nah. We'll win Saturday and everything will be fine....until Sunday.


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01-30-2009, 09:19 AM
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I know the cliche, take one game at a time and don't look ahead.... I think you can field a team of shaved monkeys and they should still beat the kings....
The Kings have won 3 straight and scored 16 goals in the process. That's not a pushover team right now.

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01-30-2009, 09:27 AM
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We're a lot closer to being out of the play-off picture than we think. People still concerned with "catching" Boston?

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01-30-2009, 09:30 AM
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Sometimes, a loss is acceptable and understandable in a long season. But three losses against the low-tier teams (Atlanta, TB, Florida) with huge margins are not acceptable at all.
I'm extremely disappointed in this team.

This team can only go as far as Price brings us, but if Price fails, we fail.

Last comment: I still can't explain the fact that Habs were flying high without Price, Koivu and Higgins... then they came back, then the team changes completely. Why ???

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01-30-2009, 09:39 AM
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We will beat Boston folks, don't worry about it!!!

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01-30-2009, 09:56 AM
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Anyone read Boone's About Last Night?

It's kind of depressing because there's too much truth into what he wrote.

http://habsinsideout.com/boone/14634
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"Andrei and Sergei Inkonsystent."
LOL. Good one.

Myself, I think the morale of this team was shot to bits when during the hot streak from mid-December til mid-January, right out of the blue, the Montreal media and TSN jumped on the Vinnie bandwagon willing to gut the team to get him. Most telling was the fact that it was TB that quelled the rumour, Habs management remained silent.

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The Kings have won 3 straight and scored 16 goals in the process. That's not a pushover team right now.
They are a .500 team and 4 points out of a playoff spot with 3 games in hand... just beat up the blackhawks pretty well too. They have been playing pretty decent hockey against some decent teams.

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I really want Bob to trade Pleks for a guy with some grit, at least someone who is willing to pay the price to get the job done.
I'm not sure if you have noticed but Plecs is one of the few TRYING.

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Offense:

-Kovalev-Lang-AKost: Terrible. Awfull. Disaster. They should never be together again.
-Higgins-Koivu-D'Agostini: Some good opportunities. Higgins and Koivu are not yet in top shape.
-Latendresse-Lapierre-Kostopoulos: Lots of movement. Lots of efforts. Way too much icetime for a line that has trouble finishing.
-Bégin-Plex-SKost: Good effort. Plex looks better separated from Kovalev.

Defense: Total mess
Agreed! +1000

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It's time to call up Stewart, Chipchura and Ryan White.

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01-30-2009, 10:35 AM
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It's time to call up Stewart, Chipchura and Ryan White.
Isn't Laraque supposed to be ok this weekend ?

They should bench Kovalev, SKost and Brisebois, and put Stewart, Laraque and O'Byrne (who deserved to play...) instead...

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