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01-30-2009, 05:17 PM
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To Edmonton:
Jordan Staal

To Pittsburgh
Erik Cole
Taylor Chorney/Theo Peckham
Robert Nilsson
3rd Round Pick/Marc Pouliot
Following this trade would be the hanging of Ray Shero in downtown Pittsburgh!

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01-30-2009, 05:20 PM
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its is a load of crap to the Pens, we are set at defense though Peckam would hold value as he is different to the other guys we have.If Staal is going to be traded it is for someone of a similar level not a couple of guys at lower level.SCORING WINGERS are what the Pens need!I think the crap response was due to the OP not taking into account the Pens needs.
then simply state that the pens have no need for that type of
defenseman right now, and that the package isn't quite good enough to land Staal. seems like a more informed respose to me.

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01-30-2009, 05:24 PM
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then simply state that the pens have no need for that type of
defenseman right now, and that the package isn't quite good enough to land Staal. seems like a more informed respose to me.
you realise Trade Rumors and Free agent talk is the fiercest battle ground of HF,right?

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01-30-2009, 05:28 PM
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The Pens don't need or want more defensemen. Staal will only be moved for a solid package that includes a young winger or two.

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01-30-2009, 05:35 PM
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you realise Trade Rumors and Free agent talk is the fiercest battle ground of HF,right?
i definately do, i should know better than to try and be rational on the Trade Rumors and Free Agent board. i've been on these boards for 3 years now,

you'd think i'd have learned by now.

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01-30-2009, 05:44 PM
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You have to remember that what you want from Staal in a trade is a player that can play the wing with Crosby. Then some youth or depth players. This is what you get.
Cogs- would play really well on the wing with Malkin or Crosby
Pouliot- has the hands but has to be fed the puck. He played with Crosby before and flourished
Chorney- Young prospecct that will be ready to come up in 2 years that will help you with cap relief and help your team.

I honestly dont think that Pittsburg would get much more than that for Staal. We have te remember about the cap also and this would help Pittsburg out in the long run and now.

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01-30-2009, 06:37 PM
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To Edmonton:
Jordan Staal

To Pittsburgh
Erik Cole
Taylor Chorney/Theo Peckham
Robert Nilsson
3rd Round Pick/Marc Pouliot
Dude that's horrible! You've gotta replace Chorney with Petry...


Cole
Petry
Nilson
1st rounder
There's a fair deal -- Peckham doesn't have enough offensive upside to have trade value and Chorny's trade value isn't going anywhere with the awful season he's had in the AHL. Petry hasn't disappointed anyone yet. He's still looking like a top pairing defenseman.

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01-30-2009, 07:02 PM
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Staal is the 3rd best player involved. Cole is better he's just not signed. Cogliano is better any way you want to look at it.
You need to lay off the dope. Staal plays on our 3rd line for the most part and he is putting up the best numbers of the bunch. He will be even better when he is not surrounded by Chris Minard and Tyler Kennedy or Matt Cooke. I don't think most people from Edmonton would agree with you.

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01-30-2009, 07:49 PM
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What would it take to get Penner, and Cole?

Cole-Crosby-Satan
Penner-Malkin-Sykora

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01-30-2009, 08:59 PM
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that's true, it's just a pet peeve of mine when people assume that a player is crap, soley because they've never heard of that player.

oh well whatever, welcome to the world of message boards.
I can list off some pittsburgh prospects that you probably havent heard of and put them up for Gagne or Eberle and then try convincing you that they arent crap.

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01-30-2009, 09:01 PM
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What would it take to get Penner, and Cole?

Cole-Crosby-Satan
Penner-Malkin-Sykora
why the hell would you want Penner's contract? That is absolutely the last direction this team needs to be going...

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01-30-2009, 09:28 PM
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lets not get carried away.. size ? PK? faceoff% ?
Cogliano is faster but age, role in respective clubs and offense is about the same.

With Gagner and Nilsson already around and Eberly and Omark etc on the way an upgrade in size would not be a bad thing.. Staal does everything Cogliano can do.

edit: as for the OP , I dont think PIT really needs\wants a Chorney or a 3rd rounder from EDM..

Cole for playoffs, Pouliot for depth and 2nd would IMO be fair for Staal.
You think a UFA, a prospect that hasn't done much with the Oilers and a 2nd would be fair for an established 20yr old that is on pace to score 20 goals after a sophmore slump that is signed to a good deal long term?

Yikes...

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01-30-2009, 09:29 PM
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What would it take to get Penner, and Cole?

Cole-Crosby-Satan
Penner-Malkin-Sykora
Penner - A life time all you can eat at the best restaurant in Pittsburgh.
Cole - Orpik gone from the team (Brooks called to say sorry, Cole didn't want any of it...there's your answer).

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01-30-2009, 10:35 PM
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To Oilers

Collection of UFA's, scrubs and draft picks

to the Pens

Gagner.

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01-30-2009, 10:36 PM
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I can list off some pittsburgh prospects that you probably havent heard of and put them up for Gagne or Eberle and then try convincing you that they arent crap.
again, your assuming they're crap because you haven't heard of them. what i'm saying is, if you listed off some pittsburgh prospects that i've never of, i'd do some research on those prospects to see if they actually are crap or not.

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01-30-2009, 10:47 PM
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The OP's package was not good enough to land Staal, bottom line. But I think Pens fans are delusional if they think a package deal is "quantity for quality garbage". Look at your friggin team right now. You have 2 of the top 5 players in the world and you're not a playoff team as of today. How does that possibly happen?

Also, the Oil fan who wouldn't trade Cogliano straight up for Staal, get a clue man. Don't pay attention to numbers only. Staal has the size, skating, shot and hockey sense to dominate in every area of the game. Whether he gets there or not, the ability will always be there. Cogliano is only better in one of those areas.

Personally, I think the Pens should do a package deal, but not for Staal. Trade Malkin, and they would get a huge package that would actually give them a killer top 6. They'd be able to give Staal the 2nd line center job with actual 2nd line wingers.... Oh, and they'd probably make the playoffs.

But, for the sake of the topic, to get Staal the Oil probably give up

Penner
Cogliano
Pittsburgh's option to flip 1st rders in the next 2 years (with top 5 protection for the Oil)

I would do that as an Oil fan because we desperately need a big center who is awesome at creating turnovers (especially on the PK). Staal would be great with Hemmer.

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01-30-2009, 11:19 PM
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What would it take to get Penner, and Cole?
A lobotomy?

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01-30-2009, 11:25 PM
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No way Edmonton does this. Huge overpayment.

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01-30-2009, 11:30 PM
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No way Edmonton does this. Huge overpayment.
Nonsense. Cole's a UFA, Nilsson's a wimp, and the 3rd rounder and prospect du jour are not enough to swing the deal. This deal would be one of the best things to happen to the Oilers in a couple of years.

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