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02-01-2009, 10:56 PM
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I wish Carbo stuck with the lines:

AK46 - Lang - SK74 .. if he did .. Lang wouldn't have that accident today..

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02-01-2009, 10:57 PM
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Well Im sure he'll assess the team over the next couple of games and see where we are at. Then he probably will still do nothing.
hahaha, yah...exactly.

Team is on a 3 game losing streak - so bob what are you doing?
"assessing the team, i don't want to rush anything"

Team has won 1 game in 7 games and falling down the standings- so bob what are you doing?
"oh hey, still assessing the team...this is hard work i'm telling ya"


Team is fighting for the playoffs with the Deadline approaching in a hurry
- so bob what are you doing?
"well, listen folks. i've assessed this team and there are some players available but this would require us to give something back, so at this time i'll continue to assess my team until the other teams feel ready to lower their expectations...so brb, assessing team"


Team has missed the playoffs and trade deadline is over - so bob what are you doing?
"well, assessing the team as always...getting ready to assess the potential draft picks"

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02-01-2009, 11:00 PM
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I'd just like that Bob would TALK.

You see every teams' GMs talking to the media, addressing the problems and needs of their teams while Bob stays in his ivory tower planning and thinking like a mad man without letting anybody know. I know he's a secretive person and doesn't want to leak much to the press, but ******* it, Gainey needs to let us know he's at least caring about what's happening.

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02-01-2009, 11:00 PM
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Come April.. lineup

Tanguay - Koivu - Dags
Patches - Plek - Kovy
AK46 - Higs - SK74
Lats - Laps - Kosto/Laraque

Not soo bad..

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02-01-2009, 11:01 PM
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Time to semi blow it up.

The core is fine. Markov, Komi, Price.

Others likely to stay. Lapierre, Koivu, A Kost, Kosto.

Free agents who should leave. Kovalev, Tanguay, Dandenault, Brisebois, Lang.

Now we have alot of assets outside of this. Gorges, Kosts, Plek, MaxPac, S Kost, Weber, McDonagh, O'Byrne, Cube, Carle, D'Ago, Laraque, Subban, Halak, Higgins, Lats, Maxwel, Chipchura, Fischer.

Time to build a normal team with an awesome top line, decent second line, decent third line. The "four 4th line" model isn't going to work long term. Obviously I'm not saying get rid of great prospects like MaxPac and Mcdonagh and Subban, but you have to give to get. We have enough depth to fill in with youngsters.

Top Line - A Kost, ?, ?
Second Line - Koivu, ?, ? (MaxPac?)
Third Line - Lapierre, Kosto, Lats

Top D - Markov, Komi
2nd D - Hamr, ?
3rd D - McDonah?, Subban?

Goalie - Price

Focus on getting a few top level players. Sell the farm if need be. Sign some free agents (Hossa?). Add that to Markov, Komi, Price and what's left of the young guys and we should be good to go.

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02-01-2009, 11:03 PM
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We also thought Vinny wasn't available. I still believe he is. Everyone has their price.

As for Jordan I love that kid, I was always a big fan.

J.Staal+Bouwmeester would definately leave u with parting ways with: 1-2 1sts, Pleks, Higgins, Fischer, Possibly PK, McDonagh, O'Byrne, Henry.
Everyone knows we are down on the floor rolling around holding our groin, and they will force us to overpay.
Pens are in worse shape than us, they are sitting in 10th in the East with more games played with teams in front of them.

Even though it is Montreal's 100th, I think the Pens as Stanley Cup finalists have more on the line than the Habs and a trade for Staal could be possible and not too expensive.

I'm Gainey I would propose;

Kovalev, Plekanec and Fisher and/or Weber for Staal and a pick.

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02-01-2009, 11:03 PM
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I'd just like that Bob would TALK.

You see every teams' GMs talking to the media, addressing the problems and needs of their teams while Bob stays in his ivory tower planning and thinking like a mad man without letting anybody know. I know he's a secretive person and doesn't want to leak much to the press, but ******* it, Gainey needs to let us know he's at least caring about what's happening.
I hate to say it as it's been said all to often but Gainey doesn't need to let us know anything. The media around this team causes enough problems. The more he spoke the more it would get twisted.

I know we all would love to be the fly on the wall and know whats going on but we don't have that kind of organization that lets things slip out and it's probably a good thing considering the market we're talking about.

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02-01-2009, 11:04 PM
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This line was terrible defensively, good thing it was broken up. GTFO with your ifs.
AK got all his goals on this line, this was the only time Sergei showed up and Lang was a great set up man and finsher on that line...don't know what your smokin.

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02-01-2009, 11:05 PM
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I think its finally time for Kovy to go. He's dragging this team down IMO with his lackluster effort, nonchalant play, etc. Not someone i want the kids to model themselves after...

If not traded, i really don't want to see him re-signed this summer. Sorry Kovy

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I'd just like that Bob would TALK.

You see every teams' GMs talking to the media, addressing the problems and needs of their teams while Bob stays in his ivory tower planning and thinking like a mad man without letting anybody know. I know he's a secretive person and doesn't want to leak much to the press, but ******* it, Gainey needs to let us know he's at least caring about what's happening.
You can at least understand his skepticism in speaking with the media, and why he gives the same generic answers everytime he does. It's well-known that Gainey never says anything, and yet trade rumors are always flying about from sources supposedly within the Canadiens organization about this and that, almost all of which end up false. I don't think he does it to spite the fans, but because he knows every word he says can be twisted in almost any which way.

I do suspect he'll call a press conference soon anyway, though, especially if Lang's gone for the rest of the season. While Montreal's line-up would thus be strikingly similar to last season's, it was supposed to be much better, and losing one of the two big off-season acquisitions is a big loss to take.

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02-01-2009, 11:06 PM
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AK got all his goals on this line, this was the only time Sergei showed up and Lang was a great set up man and finsher on that line...don't know what your smokin.
I said defensively, can't you read? Gee. They were a liability in their own end. I'd rather have three balanced lines than one good offensive line who can't play for **** defensively.

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02-01-2009, 11:08 PM
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I said defensively, can't you read? Gee. They were a liability in their own end. I'd rather have three balanced lines than one good offensive line who can't play for **** defensively.
Problem with this team is we aren't scoring though!!!

We barely beat the Kings and you want to play defensive hockey?

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I said defensively, can't you read? Gee. They were a liability in their own end. I'd rather have three balanced lines than one good offensive line who can't play for **** defensively.
I'm going to go ahead and nominate you for the most abrasive poster award, haha. Seems you're always in the middle of a little tiff.

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He can start by waking up from his hibernation.
damnit thats my joke. Good old Silent Bob.

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Problem with this team is we aren't scoring though!!!

We barely beat the Kings and you want to play defensive hockey?
To be fair we're 9th in league scoring so we're not that horrible in the scoring department. Our biggest problem is the PP. We get a powerplay and it almost sucks our momentum.

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02-01-2009, 11:13 PM
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whats the point of pissing off assets so we can MAYBE get through the first round? This season is over, cross it out and just keep building for next year. Our injuries will have set the stage for our ahl guys to come in and get some nhl action for next year and they will be better for it....just like the bruins last year when you think about it.

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Problem with this team is we aren't scoring though!!!

We barely beat the Kings and you want to play defensive hockey?
We wouldn't have to score that much if we wouldn't be creating that many turnovers. Just look at the bruins. Winning 1-0, 2-1 or 3-2 games or winning games 4-2, 5-1, 6-3, is a win no matter what.

We won't win in the playoffs if we can't play good defensive hockey. We can win if we play tight defensive hockey and score 3-2 goals a game though.

Hockey is also about transition play, if we are stuck constantly in our own zone we won't be able to create goal chances. Just look at yesterday's game. It's the best example. We were getting hammered in our zone and could barely produce some offence. Moreover, our transition game was atrocious without Gorges and Brisebois, and the bruins were owning the neutral zone.

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Eric Staal and Thomas Kaberle or Bouwmeester.

This would put us back in the race but you can bet your ass that we would loose Sergei/Andrei, PK, McDonagh, 2 1sts, Pleks, O'Byrne, Higgins+
Unless you wanna give up Markov, Price or Komi he's not touchable.

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02-01-2009, 11:16 PM
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and yah we should have kept mark streit....seriously. pp specialist or whatever, the guy was willing to take a discount to stay (like that's crazy in the first place) and was a big reason why our PP was so great for the past few seasons.

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and yah we should have kept mark streit....seriously. pp specialist or whatever, the guy was willing to take a discount to stay (like that's crazy in the first place) and was a big reason why our PP was so great for the past few seasons.
I know you started the thread but could you stay on topic?

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whats the point of pissing off assets so we can MAYBE get through the first round? This season is over, cross it out and just keep building for next year. Our injuries will have set the stage for our ahl guys to come in and get some nhl action for next year and they will be better for it....just like the bruins last year when you think about it.
Ah, the Hab fan. They live only in the moment. You can very rarely find this species of hockey fan anywhere else. They have a tendancy to be extremely reactionary. One moment they are blasting out of this world in pure joy, the next they are burning up upon re-entry as they hit rock bottom. The rockstars of NHL fandom.

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Ah, the Hab fan. They live only in the moment. You can very rarely find this species of hockey fan anywhere else. They have a tendancy to be extremely reactionary. One moment they are blasting out of this world in pure joy, the next they are burning up upon re-entry as they hit rock bottom. The rockstars of NHL fandom.
Just gotta read all the Kovy posts from the past 2 weeks to see the true nature of the Habber, very interesting species.

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whats the point of pissing off assets so we can MAYBE get through the first round? This season is over, cross it out and just keep building for next year. Our injuries will have set the stage for our ahl guys to come in and get some nhl action for next year and they will be better for it....just like the bruins last year when you think about it.
because we have faith in the team and that it just needs a shot in the arm to get going? i mean we were winning quite a few games with higgins, koivu, price and tanguay out all at the same time...so now 3 of 4 back we start to suck all of a sudden? this team can get it done, but it needs just a few modifications that shouldn't force us to sell the farm.

And what's the point in stocking up on all of these assets during a day of caps and shortened UFA eligibility? So for example we can get say Bouwmeester in the deal...but the deal maker comes in the form of us willing to deal McDonagh and we say no, because there's a chance that he'll be a good defenseman in 3-4 years? Screw that, We got Trevor Timmins...he'll find us another McDonagh. It's not like all of these prospects will play for us at the same time either, so i just don't see the point of stashing all of these assets when most of them won't make an impact for a few seasons. And besides once these assets ingrain themselves onto the team, the UFA ticker will begin...and we'll have to worry about their contracts as well.

And heck if we gave up what the Penguins did last year to get Hossa, we'd still have a plethora of good young assets. Unlike them, we can actually draft players that aren't dropped on our laps.

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