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02-03-2009, 08:17 PM
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Boston and Toronto trade idea

What about a deal like this between Chiarelli and Burke:

To Boston: Thomas Kaberle and Nic Antropov

To Toronto: Matt Hunwick, Petteri Nokelainen, Marco Sturm and Boston's 3rd rd pick if Antropov resigns.

Boston gets a Top defenseman who is reasonable signed and a replacement for Sturm in UFA Antropov.

Toronto gets three NHL'ers in a 1st line LW'er, good puck moving defenseman and a former Isle first rd pick Nokie who has potential to be a decent third liner. Plus a possible third rd pick.

Thoughts?

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02-03-2009, 08:21 PM
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Not enough from Boston.
Sturm wouldn't waive his NTC.
Can't afford Kaberle next year.

Leafs fans are gonna say it'll cost Wheeler, Lucic, Wideman, Krejci, Kessel and Rask for Kaberle and Chara for the rights to negotiate with Antropov.

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02-03-2009, 08:24 PM
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This isn't even close for Kaberle

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02-03-2009, 08:25 PM
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It's not enough for Kaberle, and Boston can't afford to pay him next season anyway.

Both GM's say no thanks.

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02-03-2009, 08:31 PM
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See if this was a Leaf fan proposing a similarly lopsided deal, we'd have about 7-8 people in the thread knocking us already.

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Counter Offer :



Peter Schaefer
Matt Hunwick
Joe Colborne
1st '10



Tomas Kaberle
Nikky Antropov

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The problem with that is Schaefer is already in the minors, so that doesn't offer cap relief for them.

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Counter Offer :



Peter Schaefer
Matt Hunwick
Joe Colborne
1st '10



Tomas Kaberle
Nikky Antropov

Boston. Can't. Afford. Kaberle.

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02-03-2009, 08:56 PM
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Counter:

Tor:
Antropov

Bos:
Regan
2nd 09

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02-03-2009, 09:03 PM
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Counter:

Tor:
Antropov

Bos:
Regan
2nd 09
Make it a 2nd in 2010 (no 2nd in 09) and add someone like Bitz.

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02-03-2009, 09:13 PM
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Counter:

Tor:
Antropov

Bos:
Regan
2nd 09
Something like this I could see working, the original not at all. It doesn't work for Toronto at all and Boston can't take Kaberles contract.

Only thing about Regan is Boston is ready for Rask at the lastest next season, which means Regan is the defacto #1 in Provo. They really don't have the depth to back fill that position,

I would guess Karsums and a 3rd for Antro.

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02-03-2009, 09:27 PM
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Not sure why everyone thinks Boston can not afford Kaberle. He has a cap friendly contract at 4.25 million. Boston can simply move Ward at 2.5 million and Sturm 3.5 ( His "No" movement clause can be exercised in the off season if he does not accept a trade) Manny at 4.3 will be gone and P.J. at 1.85 is not likely to return. That is 6 million to spend on Kessel/Krejci/Timmy
On the other side in regards to Antropov, he is not likely to get much more than a prospect or a low 2nd round pick.

How about Marty Karsums for Nic Antropov

As well, I don't think the Bruins are going to give up Bitz for nothing. He is playing great and has the potential to be a good power forward.

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02-03-2009, 09:30 PM
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kaberle is not going to be traded by the deadline unless the trade overwhelmingly favors the leafs, and i don't see any team offering what burke might want so therefore it is more likely he will be traded at the draft or later, but who know burke just might keep him if he doesnt get what he wants. its not like kaberle is a ufa at the end of the season
we got lots of time to trade him even if it is not this year

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02-03-2009, 09:41 PM
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Not sure why everyone thinks Boston can not afford Kaberle. He has a cap friendly contract at 4.25 million. Boston can simply move Ward at 2.5 million and Sturm 3.5 ( His "No" movement clause can be exercised in the off season if he does not accept a trade) Manny at 4.3 will be gone and P.J. at 1.85 is not likely to return. That is 6 million to spend on Kessel/Krejci/Timmy
On the other side in regards to Antropov, he is not likely to get much more than a prospect or a low 2nd round pick.

How about Marty Karsums for Nic Antropov

As well, I don't think the Bruins are going to give up Bitz for nothing. He is playing great and has the potential to be a good power forward.
You have to replace Manny with Rask. Rask's hit is 3.2. Right now, the Bruins have to move at least one contract if they want to resign Thomas along with Kessel and Krejci.

Kaberle doesn't work.

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You have to replace Manny with Rask. Rask's hit is 3.2. Right now, the Bruins have to move at least one contract if they want to resign Thomas along with Kessel and Krejci.

Kaberle doesn't work.
how does Rask make 3.2
how many nhl game does he even have

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how does Rask make 3.2
how many nhl game does he even have
Rask doesn't make $3.2 million - he carries a $3.2 million cap hit because he's on his entry-level contract.

BTW - the original proposal is cap-compliant.


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When JFJ dealt Rask for Raycroft you should have seen my reaction!!!! Boston, definitely some wise decision making by the front office

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Rask doesn't make $3.2 million - he carries a $3.2 million cap hit because he's on his entry-level contract.

BTW - the original proposal is cap-compliant.
Boston needs to resign Thomas, kessel, and krejci this offseason, assuming they sign for 4 mil each it puts them at 54 mil. They will not be able to add kaberle and his 4.25 cap hit next year.

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Boston needs to resign Thomas, kessel, and krejci this offseason, assuming they sign for 4 mil each it puts them at 54 mil. They will not be able to add kaberle and his 4.25 cap hit next year.
i can assure you thomas is getting more than 4 mill..as will kessel..krejci prolly not yet

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Something like this I could see working, the original not at all. It doesn't work for Toronto at all and Boston can't take Kaberles contract.

Only thing about Regan is Boston is ready for Rask at the lastest next season, which means Regan is the defacto #1 in Provo. They really don't have the depth to back fill that position,

I would guess Karsums and a 3rd for Antro.
Your sticking point with Regan being dealt is that you do not have a starter for your ahl team next year? AHL starters are a dime a dozen on the free agent market. You have pretty strong depth at goal right now with three guys as potential starters next season. I think if the right offer came that filled boston's needs Regan could be traded.

As to your trade proposal Toronto says no, we can get a better prospect and a better draft pick elsewhere.

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i can assure you thomas is getting more than 4 mill..as will kessel..krejci prolly not yet
I deliberately underestimated, if they sign those three at 4 they only have 2 mil to resign hunwick hnidy and axelson, which proves just how bad boston needs to dump salary, and just how bad of an idea it is for them to add kaberle.

BTW Krejci is a 22 year old on pace for above 80 points, if he doesn't sign for 4 it will be very close

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Your sticking point with Regan being dealt is that you do not have a starter for your ahl team next year? AHL starters are a dime a dozen on the free agent market. You have pretty strong depth at goal right now with three guys as potential starters next season. I think if the right offer came that filled boston's needs Regan could be traded.

As to your trade proposal Toronto says no, we can get a better prospect and a better draft pick elsewhere.
AHL starters with potential to develop into NHL regulars are hardly dime a dozen.

And as for our depth, we have two UFA goalies which we'll be hard pressed to resign come next season. Even if we do manage to get one under contract that leaves our depth at a 37 year old goaltender and Rask.

I don't know how much you know of Boston's drafting history, but they haven't exactly stock piled the reserves at the tending position. Beyond Regan Boston has some ECHL caliber goaltending. NHL teams don't just dismiss their AHL affiliates, it's a proving ground and one that they would prefer to have a winning atmosphere. Right now, Regan is showing he is their best option.

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Laughable proposals for both Kaberle and Antropov.

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You're right. No one even mentioned throwing in a 7th rounder.


Sorry, even as a season ticket holder i still hate the Leafs.

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