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02-04-2009, 02:56 PM
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Renney not happy with todays practice

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I like it.........they need a kick in the arse

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"We know we have to play better, we know we have to score. If Tom thinks we're not scoring because of a lack of effort, I guess that's why he asked us to skate." - Naslund

There it is in writing, plain as day. Now we'll see how much the discipline works. I hope it helps, but I still don't think 'not working hard' is our problem.

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Good to see Renney starting to get a little tough with the guys. I truly think that effort is part of the problem. Read Dubi's article in BB+ and he sums it up perfectly. It seems like when they are desperate suddenly everything changes and the team magically starts playing well.

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Not good enough. Someone not named Prucha, Dawes or Voros needs to take a seat for a couple games.

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Fans of this team need to realize that Tom knows how to get **** done. He knows how to get the most out of his players. It's why we've made the playoffs three years running. And don't give me that ******** about the players making the playoffs and not the coach. People on this board say that like teams with the skill set of the Islanders are winning stanley cups left and right. Fact is they're not.

I'm not Renney supporter number 1, but give the guy some credit already.

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Fans of this team need to realize that Tom knows how to get **** done. He knows how to get the most out of his players. It's why we've made the playoffs three years running. And don't give me that ******** about the players making the playoffs and not the coach. People on this board say that like teams with the skill set of the Islanders are winning stanley cups left and right. Fact is they're not.

I'm not Renney supporter number 1, but give the guy some credit already.
Amen. But some people are hell bent on thinking that because they don't see the guy flip out on the bench during games that he has no intensity. Of course, all those people are privy to every practice and meeting, aren't they?

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Tom Renney is a terrible motivator, and today's practice wont make any difference.

The killer instinct the Rangers lack is a reflection of their coach's demeanor and his methods.

Hey I like Tom Renney, hes great at some things, just not that.

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Amen. But some people are hell bent on thinking that because they don't see the guy flip out on the bench during games that he has no intensity. Of course, all those people are privy to every practice and meeting, aren't they?
To comment on Renney's demeanor on the bench. I love it. We've seen him get in the refs faces when we desperately need it so we know he's capable. But thank god he's not like Michel Therrien and throwing a hissy fit like a child in the refs faces every night.

I can think of another [former] NY coach who had the exact same personality as Renney, and his team won a lot of championships. Think about it. Just because he ain't throwing a hissy fit, doesn't mean he's not getting his point across.




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To comment on Renney's demeanor on the bench. I love it. We've seen him get in the refs faces when we desperately need it so we know he's capable. But thank god he's not like Michel Therrien and throwing a hissy fit like a child in the refs faces every night.

I can think of another [former] NY coach who had the exact same personality as Renney, and his team won a lot of championships. Think about it. Just because he ain't throwing a hissy fit, doesn't mean he's not getting his point across.
While not looking at them in the eye. Hmmm, looks like a ton of confidence to me.

Watch the Blackhawks game again.

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While not looking at them in the eye. Hmmm, looks like a ton of confidence to me.

Watch the Blackhawks game again.


Yep he's just staring at his wife who made the trip to chicago across the way.

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While not looking at them in the eye. Hmmm, looks like a ton of confidence to me.

Watch the Blackhawks game again.
Oh puh-leeease.

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"We know we have to play better, we know we have to score. If Tom thinks we're not scoring because of a lack of effort, I guess that's why he asked us to skate." - Naslund

There it is in writing, plain as day. Now we'll see how much the discipline works. I hope it helps, but I still don't think 'not working hard' is our problem.
Hey, we agree up to this point!

Also, note from Naslund's quote: "If Tom thinks we're not scoring because of a lack of effort"...

If he really said it exactly like that, then clearly MARKUS doesn't think it's due to a lack of effort. Wonder what Markus thinks it's due to...? Hmmm....

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While not looking at them in the eye. Hmmm, looks like a ton of confidence to me.

Watch the Blackhawks game again.
We won that game, no?

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Hey, we agree up to this point!

Also, note from Naslund's quote "If Tom thinks we're not scoring because of a lack of effort"... If he really said it exactly like that, then clearly MARKUS doesn't think it's due to a lack of effort. Wonder what Markus thinks it's due to...? Hmmm....
Yeah he's thinking if its not effort its the skill level.

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Amen. But some people are hell bent on thinking that because they don't see the guy flip out on the bench during games that he has no intensity. Of course, all those people are privy to every practice and meeting, aren't they?
Yeah and neither are you, so how do you know if his motivational tactics work and actually reach the players?

No one knows. This pissing match will go on forever between us.

I believe he doesnt have the necessary level of personality, intensity, fire, gumption, whatever you want to call it to make an impression on a hockey team in a way that will last.

Just my opinion from what ive seen over the past 3 years. You are entitled to your own and thats fine. Im not saying hes a horrible coach - just pointing out that that is one of his major cons as a coach, one by the way he has candidly admitted to i might add.

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Yeah he's thinking if its not effort its the skill level.
Burned.

The blame falls wrong on this board. It is not Tom's fault. He didn't bring this group of 'players' together. He's just struggling to make it work like any coach would.

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Hey, we agree up to this point!

Also, note from Naslund's quote: "If Tom thinks we're not scoring because of a lack of effort"...

If he really said it exactly like that, then clearly MARKUS doesn't think it's due to a lack of effort. Wonder what Markus thinks it's due to...? Hmmm....
Yep.

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Burned.

The blame falls wrong on this board. It is not Tom's fault. He didn't bring this group of 'players' together. He's just struggling to make it work like any coach would.
Its never one persons fault. Saying its just the coaches is wrong, but he sure is part of the problem.

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Yeah and neither are you, so how do you know if his motivational tactics work and actually reach the players?

No one knows. This pissing match will go on forever between us.

I believe he doesnt have the necessary level of personality, intensity, fire, gumption, whatever you want to call it to make an impression on a hockey team in a way that will last.

Just my opinion from what ive seen over the past 3 years. You are entitled to your own and thats fine. Im not saying hes a horrible coach - just pointing out that that is one of his major cons as a coach, one by the way he has candidly admitted to i might add.
So change the captain, not the coach. Renney is brilliant. If you have a quiet coach a la Renney (and Torre), it's no use having a quiet leader, Drury.

Give Mara the 'C' for ****s sake. He's earned it.

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Yeah and neither are you, so how do you know if his motivational tactics work and actually reach the players?

No one knows. This pissing match will go on forever between us.

I believe he doesnt have the necessary level of personality, intensity, fire, gumption, whatever you want to call it to make an impression on a hockey team in a way that will last.

Just my opinion from what ive seen over the past 3 years. You are entitled to your own and thats fine. Im not saying hes a horrible coach - just pointing out that that is one of his major cons as a coach, one by the way he has candidly admitted to i might add.
You see, even though I agree with all of these things, I still understand that even if you brought in the complete opposite of Renney, even if you brought in Bowman to coach this team, a team that ices two second liners and a third liner on it's first line is going nowhere.

No style or attitude will change the lack of talent or skill.

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You see, even though I agree with all of these things, I still understand that even if you brought in the complete opposite of Renney, even if you brought in Bowman to coach this team, a team that ices two second liners and a third liner on it's first line is going nowhere.

No style or attitude will change the lack of talent or skill.
This.

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You see, even though I agree with all of these things, I still understand that even if you brought in the complete opposite of Renney, even if you brought in Bowman to coach this team, a team that ices two second liners and a third liner on it's first line is going nowhere.

No style or attitude will change the lack of talent or skill.
I'm glad someone in here has the honesty to admit that flaw of Renney.

Thats all im talking about and thats all i have been talking about.

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You see, even though I agree with all of these things, I still understand that even if you brought in the complete opposite of Renney, even if you brought in Bowman to coach this team, a team that ices two second liners and a third liner on it's first line is going nowhere.

No style or attitude will change the lack of talent or skill.
Bingo!

And Jonathan. your avatar is HILARIOUS. I died when I saw that.

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Bingo!

And Jonathan. your avatar is HILARIOUS. I died when I saw that.
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