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02-04-2009, 04:57 PM
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I've been thinking through the slump that we needed a sacrifice. Someone to burn at the stake. Who else makes sense but Mike Brown? Coincidence that the clouds parted and the sun shine through on this franchise once Brown's movement was imminent?

I like McIver, he'll never be anything in the NHL but he can slot in for a few games for a stretch and lay out some toughness. I like having him in the organization.

Also, it would be ******** to trade SOB. Absolutely ********.

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02-04-2009, 05:01 PM
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So because the Canucks would have been the only team to put in a claim they could have sent him straight down to the Moose. They traded Mike Brown for him on the off chance that some other team would put in a claim for McIver so that they wouldn't be able to send him down without offering him to them first.
On second thought, it'd be worse than that. If another team did want McIver, if the Canucks had put in a waiver claim for him and another team had as well, then they could have waived him again and let him go to the other team. If said team had put in a waiver claim and the Canucks didn't so that they could trade for him, they wouldn't have gotten him anyway since the other team's claim would go through. So they basically gave up Mike Brown so they could save the waiver fee.

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Didn't Mciver play for us before as well?

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02-04-2009, 05:09 PM
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Didn't Mciver play for us before as well?
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02-04-2009, 05:18 PM
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Four pages? That's all???

This thread has been up for two hours now!

When I got home and read the newsletter I expected a crazy party on this board or at least a huge wave of relieve. And what do I find? Four pages!

Guys, I'm seriously disappointed. With all of you.


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02-04-2009, 05:21 PM
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Four pages? That's all???

This thread has been up for two hours now!

When I got home and read the newsletter I expected a crazy party on this board or at least a huge wave of relieve. And what do I find? Four pages!

Guys, I'm seriously disappointed. With all of you.

I'm busy partying

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02-04-2009, 05:26 PM
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jeez, sure a lot of hate for a young player just getting his teeth wet at the NHL level. I'm going to go out on a limb and say Brown had absolutely no impact on our recent struggles. I'd say it is about 100x more likely that Brown will play 500 NHL games compared to McIver.

with those sour grapes out of the way, this is maybe the funniest trade in Canuck history. weird all around right from the beginning.

now I'd like to see MG add some grit to the 4th line for the playoffs. Maybe Radek Bonk could be had cheap?

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02-04-2009, 05:38 PM
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jeez, sure a lot of hate for a young player just getting his teeth wet at the NHL level. I'm going to go out on a limb and say Brown had absolutely no impact on our recent struggles. I'd say it is about 100x more likely that Brown will play 500 NHL games compared to McIver.
His replacement might have had an impact (Jaffrey).

I'd say it is about 100x more likely Jaffrey would have had a positive impact than Mike Brown will be playing 500 NHL games.

At the very least, he likely wouldn't have made a brutal turnover in the Wild game. That could be one point (or one less loss) right there.


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Mike Brown was obviously a locker room cancer, and was singularly responsible for the losing streak.

Losing Pettinger for Brown looks pretty f'ing stupid at this point though.
Does he even still play hockey?

I heard he worked baggage at the airport now ?

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Oh my god. So basically they didn't want Mike Brown so much that they traded him for a player who could have been had for free on waivers yesterday.
with the 50 contract rule--sometimes trading contracts is the next best thing

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This is pretty horrible asset management when you look at the big picture.

Essentially, we gave away Pettinger and Brown for nothing.

Brown was a depth player with no real use on the Canucks, McIver is a depth defenseman with no real use on the Canucks. This is pretty much an AHL deal.

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02-04-2009, 06:17 PM
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So how soon can we expect Mike Brown to be placed on waivers?

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This is pretty horrible asset management when you look at the big picture.

Essentially, we gave away Pettinger and Brown for nothing.

Brown was a depth player with no real use on the Canucks, McIver is a depth defenseman with no real use on the Canucks. This is pretty much an AHL deal.
It's not really bad asset management when the players you give away aren't really assets. I was disappointed as anyone that they waived Pettinger over Brown because he was a more useful player but neither guy had anything resembling value around the league. Players like that get moved around for nothing all the time.

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Mike Brown scores against us the next time we play the Ducks.

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This is pretty horrible asset management when you look at the big picture.

Essentially, we gave away Pettinger and Brown for nothing.

Brown was a depth player with no real use on the Canucks, McIver is a depth defenseman with no real use on the Canucks. This is pretty much an AHL deal.
The only mistake was made at the beginning of the season waiving Pettinger over Brown. McIver was destined for waivers with Nycholat and Davison ahead of him.

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02-04-2009, 06:45 PM
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OMG this is monumental. One day my grandkids will ask "Grandpa, where were you the day Mike Brown got traded?"

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It's not really bad asset management when the players you give away aren't really assets. I was disappointed as anyone that they waived Pettinger over Brown because he was a more useful player but neither guy had anything resembling value around the league. Players like that get moved around for nothing all the time.
Every asset is an asset, and Gillis is pretty sloppy with his assets.

These moves in particular might not mean much overall, but it is a trend I've noticed.

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jeez, sure a lot of hate for a young player just getting his teeth wet at the NHL level. I'm going to go out on a limb and say Brown had absolutely no impact on our recent struggles. I'd say it is about 100x more likely that Brown will play 500 NHL games compared to McIver.

with those sour grapes out of the way, this is maybe the funniest trade in Canuck history. weird all around right from the beginning.

now I'd like to see MG add some grit to the 4th line for the playoffs. Maybe Radek Bonk could be had cheap?
I agree, Brown wasn't the problem. Unless masses thought Matt Pettinger or Jason Jaffray would of been the difference makers. Brown was the 13th forward, 5 minutes a game. He did what he was supposed to. Yeah for sure I would of prefered Pettinger as he could of been a useful winger in place of Hordichuk. I also understand that Pettinger makes too much for the 12/13 forward spot. Jaffray would be perfect for that, cheap and plays with some grit and ok hands. And forget Rypien, I've been impressed what he can do with his frame but I would never pencil in for more than a Mooser.

What was Brown supposed to do? With his current development Brown wasn't going to be anymore than a mediocre fighter. If it wasn't for waivers, he would be on the Moose learning his trade. He has the speed and willingness to be more. He should on the Moose learning to be a decent checker.

As for the trade itself? Basically its a wash. One it a 4th line energy guy and the other is a sixth energy type defensemen. Rob Davidson for Darcy Hordichuk basically.


Bonk? Nobody expects him to be a scorer anymore but he is a good checker, worth looking into

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Last night during the telecast, they showed a shot of Gillis up in the box, and he and Gilman appeared to be looking over some notes. At the time, I wondered if they were discussing a potential move.

Perhaps they were.
Probably witnessing eachother's wills knowing the impending danger they were putting themselves and their families in.

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It's not really bad asset management when the players you give away aren't really assets. I was disappointed as anyone that they waived Pettinger over Brown because he was a more useful player but neither guy had anything resembling value around the league. Players like that get moved around for nothing all the time.
Well, apparently there was some value if there was genuine interest around the league that prevented them from sending Brown down. Even if that's a 6th round pick, I agree, bad management.

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watch brown get placed on waivers and gillis reclaims him and all this happiness is gone

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