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Do you know how much cap space Boston has now to devote to a UFA rental?
They have more then enough, especially with the ability to add in someone for Sturm's LTIR.
So really, why would Boston pay someone to take one half of the best tending Tandem in the league, when they can simply let him walk for free in the offseason?
No. We have to give away Manny Fernandez for Bates Battaglia. Actually, I think we need a bit more cap space on top of that. Zdeno Chara for Mark Bell? We may need to add a pick on top of that for the Chara and Manny give us some nice cap space.
Would not be shocked if the Bruins moved Fernandez at the deadline. Thomas is the guy and Rask should be able to back up and do it quite well.
As for Kubina, the Bruins can't afford any deals past this season, as they are at about 43 mil next year already, and have to sign Krejci, Kessel, Thomas and call up Rask....
Look for the Bruins to look at Schneider, Kuba, Neil, Tkachuk and maybe Guerin all for picks or young guys like Nokelainen, Bitz, Lashoff and Karsums.
I see 2 being signed, and 1 being dealt for an expiring contract, or prospects, or both
Nah...Hamill was just recently an 8th overall pick (IIRC)...while his value isn't as high as his draft status would suggest...he's worth more than Antropov for sure in my book...by a good margin...
so a struggling prospect is worth more than an establised NHLer
I see 2 being signed, and 1 being dealt for an expiring contract, or prospects, or both
2 being signed... check.
Then you lost it completely. Who gets dealt for expiring contracts, and prospects? The 22 year old PPG player, the 21 year old on pace for 30+ goals, or the 35 year old UFA goalie that has stops a higher percentage of shots then anyone else in the league?
None will be traded before the playoffs, Thomas will be a UFA after that.
I would say right now Hunwick, Ward, and Stuart. Ference is fairly close, but I'd say he's better. Regardless of where you rank them, defensive depth never hurts coming into the playoffs.
ward and stuart... nope, not at all.
Ward i much prefer going into the playoffs, and stuart, sort of a latteral mover, kinda pointless.
Good thing you play hockey Nikita, because you dont seem to understand the new NHL.
Capspace is a commodity in the new NHL. The Maple Leafs have capspace, the Bruins do not.
Fernandez has Boston on the hook for $4.75 million with a cap hit of $4.333 million to backup Thomas. He is also a free agent at the end of the season that the Bruins have no interest of resigning. Why would they, Rask is waiting in the wings.
If the Leafs were to take on Fernandez's salary and cap hit at the expense of a midling pick, suddenly Boston has room to make a move for a rental if they so choose.
You still with me or did the mention of caps and salary lose you?
nope, lost ya when ya started sounding like a d**k.
Do you know how much cap space Boston has now to devote to a UFA rental?
They have more then enough, especially with the ability to add in someone for Sturm's LTIR.
So really, why would Boston pay someone to take one half of the best tending Tandem in the league, when they can simply let him walk for free in the offseason?
Huh?
P.S. Congrats to Leaf fans on the singing of Brian Burke. He's knowledgable, knows talent, does a great interview, and actually knows how to build a winner! I give him 2 years tops and you guys will be a pain in the neck for a long time to come.
If the Bruins are planning on paying big for a guy who is under contract next year they might as well go for gold and try to get Pronger. Some salary would have to be ditched in the offseason, but his year and a half here would fit our current window of opportunity to a tee.
Antropov is a guy I am somewhat intrigued in, however....probably moreso than most B's fans. We could use his size.
If the Bruins are planning on paying big for a guy who is under contract next year they might as well go for gold and try to get Pronger. Some salary would have to be ditched in the offseason, but his year and a half here would fit our current window of opportunity to a tee.
Antropov is a guy I am somewhat intrigued in, however....probably moreso than most B's fans. We could use his size.
i'd agree whatever they do, i hope its someone with a combo of size, physical play and finish.
I don't see Kessel getting a lot of money because of how much he is out with certain things. I know its uncontrollable but the Bruins will use it to their advantage to get him cheaper. Krejci however has never really had a good season before this, its his contract year, the Bruins may use an option here if they got it, and try and cut some slack with Krejci. Something I'm surprised that teams haven't done is offering one year deals to players like this to see if they can produce the next season to see if their the real deal. That's something that could be coming the NHL's way. But Krejci is a prime example if it happens..
If the Bruins are planning on paying big for a guy who is under contract next year they might as well go for gold and try to get Pronger. Some salary would have to be ditched in the offseason, but his year and a half here would fit our current window of opportunity to a tee.
Antropov is a guy I am somewhat intrigued in, however....probably moreso than most B's fans. We could use his size.
Agree fully on that! We'd have two monsters on defense. And 2 quarterbacks for the powerplay, plus a big body up front. Me likey!
You don't understand my issue with the proposal? Really?
To be clear, the suggestion was we package Fernandez and a pick (so Toronto would absorb the salary presumably) in order to free up cap space for a big acquisition this season.
When in actuality, if Boston waits until the trade deadline, they can afford to do so without having to pay someone to take a goalie who is performing very well in Boston, and would be incredibly valuable for the playoff stretch.
Don't know if that helps, but to me, the idea of giving away a pick for a move that makes no sense from a financial or personal perspective would be silly.
As an outsider I actually see Toronto and Boston being very good trade partners.
I could see a Kubina for Bergeron trade.
Toronto would be taking a risk on a prety young player who has had some serious injuries and has alot of question marks. Having said that Bergeron is Burekes type of player and for a rebuilding team a risk worth taking. Boston is going to need to cut one their high payed forwards loose next year, I would assume Bergeron would be the perfered choice out of Savard, Kesel, Krejci, Ryder and even Sturm(at 3.5). Infact Kubina for Bergeron at this point might need something more coming from Boston, but that depends on alot of variables.
the conditional pick would be if Bergeron doesnt play over say 100 games in his remaining two years. It could be a 2nd or 3rd pick. void if hes traded or moved. I think that would be fair to offset the risk of a potential career ending injury, something that waiting just around the corner for him.
Regarding Bergeron regaining some of his form, well thats a big risk that not alot of teams would take and give a top dman for, Toronto being one of the few. The potential payoffs would be good with a young player that they can use in building their new core while Kubina would be heading out for the simple sake of change(out with the old).
I didnt think Boston would have interest in Antropov but if they could I could see a biger trade.
Kubina + Antropov FOR Bergeron + 1st + conditional pick 2011(like before)
Antropov would walk at the end of the year.
I see Antropovs value as a late 1st or 2nd being a UFA and all, just look at Prospal and similiar players last year.
Last edited by 0123456789*: 02-09-2009 at 12:15 AM.
I thought about Bergeron as well , but he becomes a real gamble now for whatever team decides to move for him. I think that moving Kubina, Antropov can land you Patrice, but not sure that he is a Burke type player.
