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Eric Staal OR Jason Spezza

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Staal 83 54.97%
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02-05-2009, 10:22 PM
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Why is there no equal option?

and wtf are we measuring?
Fighting ability.

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Staal, but it is close...both are great players, through...

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i go with spezza..staal only useful on the pp

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Fighting ability.
Well if that's the case, I'm pretty sure that Spezza has the Hadouken mastered, but Staal has the Sonic Boom. Whichever one figures out the Shoryuken first would probably take the win.

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02-08-2009, 11:32 AM
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i go with spezza..staal only useful on the pp
41% of Spezza's points have come on the PP this year, compared to 36% of Staal's.

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I prefer Spezza

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Close, but I'll go with Spezza.

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02-08-2009, 07:21 PM
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Keep in mind when measuring offensive statistics that Spezza had injury troubles early in his career. While that may be a negative to him, it's important when looking at their offence.

Staal has broken 100 points whereas Spezza has not, however, Staal's 100 points came in a season of 82 games.

Spezza's first season after the lock-out was 71 assists and 90 points in 68 games. Over a full season, that rounds to about 110 points - slightly higher than Malkin's production level at a similar age. The next season, with Redden and Meszaros' decline and the loss of Chara, Havlat and Hasek had Spezza producing at a pace that would see him produce only ~106 points over a full season. However, he made up for the drop in production by leading the playoffs in scoring en route to the Finals. Last season, which was an absolute trainweck, Spezza produced at a 99 point pace. And this season, both are not producing at their usual rate, although Spezza has a slight advantage.

Staal has quite a few more hits than Spezza does (42 to 13), more game-winning goals (although the 'Canes are a better team than the Sens), fewer give-aways and more blocked shots. He also wears the A. Spezza has quite a few more take-aways, a much better face-off percentage and fewer missed shots. Staal is +4 to Spezza's -10.

Career-wise, Staal is a -18 while Spezza, despite his -10, is a +77. Staal is also more expensive than Spezza is.

It's a tough call. This season, you would probably say that Staal has been better. Career-wise, although Staal has a Cup, I'd take Spezza.

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02-08-2009, 07:34 PM
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Keep in mind when measuring offensive statistics that Spezza had injury troubles early in his career. While that may be a negative to him, it's important when looking at their offence.

Staal has broken 100 points whereas Spezza has not, however, Staal's 100 points came in a season of 82 games.

Spezza's first season after the lock-out was 71 assists and 90 points in 68 games. Over a full season, that rounds to about 110 points - slightly higher than Malkin's production level at a similar age. The next season, with Redden and Meszaros' decline and the loss of Chara, Havlat and Hasek had Spezza producing at a pace that would see him produce only ~106 points over a full season. However, he made up for the drop in production by leading the playoffs in scoring en route to the Finals. Last season, which was an absolute trainweck, Spezza produced at a 99 point pace. And this season, both are not producing at their usual rate, although Spezza has a slight advantage.

Staal has quite a few more hits than Spezza does (42 to 13), more game-winning goals (although the 'Canes are a better team than the Sens), fewer give-aways and more blocked shots. He also wears the A. Spezza has quite a few more take-aways, a much better face-off percentage and fewer missed shots. Staal is +4 to Spezza's -10.

Career-wise, Staal is a -18 while Spezza, despite his -10, is a +77. Staal is also more expensive than Spezza is.

It's a tough call. This season, you would probably say that Staal has been better. Career-wise, although Staal has a Cup, I'd take Spezza.
You got everything right except for this. Staal is only making 5 mil this year and while his cap hit jumps big time to 8.25 for the next 7 years, his actual salary is only 6 mil next year.

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02-08-2009, 08:15 PM
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You got everything right except for this. Staal is only making 5 mil this year and while his cap hit jumps big time to 8.25 for the next 7 years, his actual salary is only 6 mil next year.
Cap hit is what matters. 8.25 > 7.

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Cap hit is what matters. 8.25 > 7.
Not to the Hurricanes or any of the other many teams that don't spend to the cap or have a self imposed budget.

Real money >>> Cap hit

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