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02-06-2009, 09:32 PM
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briere < forsberg < crosby
Crosby is a *****. And a choke artist. But not in terms of hockey, if you know what I mean.

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02-06-2009, 09:55 PM
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I look on nhl numbers, and you guys are way up there..... What is the timeline for briere? also if he comes back, how much are you over?

I ask because it was said that oilers scout was at the bruins phili game, scouting the bruins... But it doesnt really make a lot of sense to me as why, they arent going to want to part with anyone that would be usefull to us.... However if you guys are in cap trouble, then a deal might be made between us and would make more sense to me if he was there scouting the flyers.

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briere < forsberg < crosby
Have you ever seen Forsberg play? But i will give it to you, Crosby is better than Briere.

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February 7, 2009 update...

http://philadelphia.comcastsportsnet...984&feedID=695
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BOSTON – While the Flyers are still hampered by the flu bug, the club got some encouraging news Saturday on Danny Briere.

General manager Paul Holmgren said that Briere appears a little ahead of schedule on his rehab from groin and abdominal surgery.

“He’s doing well. He’s right on and maybe even a little ahead of schedule,” Holmgren said. “Our target date for Danny is the Feb. 25 game against Los Angeles. We’ll stick with that. He’s doing great.

“He said he has some weakness, which is normal, but no pain. It’s all about getting his health back.”

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hmmm..... Feburary 25

Thats 18 days away

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DB has reached Lindros/Forsberg status with me....hospital case...time to cut him loose asap. Guys gonna be an injury problem forever on out. His potential means nothing if he's never on the ice.

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Wow 3 posts, which means nothing, but you use one of them to state that briere is a waste and it's time to get rid of him. The player that has never before had injury problems in his career, the guy that put up over a point per game in the playoffs for us. Yeah what a loser. Lets get rid of him while he's at his lowest possible value too.

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Uh oh, looks like the Sheriff of the Post Count Police has jacked me up....cripes...why does every friggin' board have to have someone who judges a person's opinion by their post count. Way to go genius.

Is Briere your boyfriend? You seem to have taken my opinion pretty personally. I was happy the Flyers got him but I see his current injury problems as something that isn't going to end. That's kinda the way it goes...once they start they don't stop until you're out of the game. A lot of guys who "never had injury problems before" end up this way.

Lighten up pal...

BTW - I'm not advocating getting rid of him while he is hurt...obviously the Flyers would get little for him at that point.


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The player that has never before had injury problems in his career

Huh?? he has had this stomach thing a few times.

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I didnt realize we were english majors, im in middle of working and dealing with morons like you not sitting in my Moms bedroom.

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Uh oh, looks like the Sheriff of the Post Count Police has jacked me up....cripes...why does every friggin' board have to have someone who judges a person's opinion by their post count. Way to go genius.

Is Briere your boyfriend? You seem to have taken my opinion pretty personally. I was happy the Flyers got him but I see his current injury problems as something that isn't going to end. That's kinda the way it goes...once they start they don't stop until you're out of the game. A lot of guys who "never had injury problems before" end up this way.

Lighten up pal...

BTW - I'm not advocating getting rid of him while he is hurt...obviously the Flyers would get little for him at that point.

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02-09-2009, 01:27 PM
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I haven't followed Briere's career but what was wrong with him that resulted in missing 20 games or more in 6 of his 11 seasons? Normally I'd suspect he mighta had some nagging injuries but I've already been told he's never had injury problems before. So what's the scoop?

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02-09-2009, 01:31 PM
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He has had Multiple groin injuries , at least two tears that I know of and possibly another one in Juniors. This aint No surprise to anyone who followed his career. Good move Flyer fans Lets pin our hopes on 34 yo with constant health issues.

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He has had Multiple groin injuries , at least two tears that I know of and possibly another one in Juniors. This aint No surprise to anyone who followed his career. Good move Flyer fans Lets pin our hopes on 34 yo with constant health issues.
First of all Briere is 31...BIG difference between 31 and 34. Second, we arent pinning any hopes on him, its not like we're stuggling and saying "we'll be fine once briere comes back". Instead we're striving and saying "damn, just think how good we will be when briere comes back".

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I didnt realize we were english majors, im in middle of working and dealing with morons like you not sitting in my Moms bedroom.
I guess that was directed at me? Your inability to push the "quote" button makes this forum kind of a pain to read. We all post in the middle of working on one thing or another, yet your posts are the only ones that are next to impossible to read. I see you have started to use a few puncutation marks though, so that's good news.

Anyway, through his previous 11 seasons Briere has only missed significant time twice. That's not something you see out of someone with constant health issues.

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Anyway, through his previous 11 seasons Briere has only missed significant time twice. That's not something you see out of someone with constant health issues.
I don't know...missing a quarter of a season is fairly significant, IMO and he's done it for half of the time he's played in the NHL.

Checked hockeydb....guess you can't fault him for playing in only 5 gms as a rookie. And he had stints in the AHL (and IHL in 98/99) in his 2nd, 3rd and 4th seasons too. I'm guessing in 98-99 (the year he played a game in the IHL) must have been injury related. He still played 63 gms that year so it had to be from injury. No one plays 2/3rds of the season and gets busted down to the IHL for poor play I would think. But he did play the majority of 99-00 in the AHL and then split evenly between the AHL/NHL the following season. I would think that playing in only 14 gms for the 02-03 Sabres (and none in the AHL) must have been injury related too.

Even if you disregard all of that, I still don't like the re-occurrence of these recent injuries...I don't have much hope he's going to play most of the upcoming seasons. Sure I wish he'd come back and contribute greatly for the Flyers this year...I just don't think it's gonna happen.

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I don't know...missing a quarter of a season is fairly significant, IMO and he's done it for half of the time he's played in the NHL.

Checked hockeydb....guess you can't fault him for playing in only 5 gms as a rookie. And he had stints in the AHL (and IHL in 98/99) in his 2nd, 3rd and 4th seasons too. I'm guessing in 98-99 (the year he played a game in the IHL) must have been injury related. He still played 63 gms that year so it had to be from injury. No one plays 2/3rds of the season and gets busted down to the IHL for poor play I would think. But he did play the majority of 99-00 in the AHL and then split evenly between the AHL/NHL the following season. I would think that playing in only 14 gms for the 02-03 Sabres (and none in the AHL) must have been injury related too.

Even if you disregard all of that, I still don't like the re-occurrence of these recent injuries...I don't have much hope he's going to play most of the upcoming seasons. Sure I wish he'd come back and contribute greatly for the Flyers this year...I just don't think it's gonna happen.
I did check hockeydb. You don't play 20-30 games in the AHL because you're hurt, you do it because you're not good enough to be a full time NHLer. In '02-'03 he only played 14 games for the Sabres because he played 68 for the Coyotes. Only in '00-'01 (60 games) and '05-'06 (48 games) did he play short seasons. Maybe that year in Europe too, I dunno how their scheduling works, but none of that leads me to believe these injuries are in any way related. The way it has dragged on this season is disconcerting, sure, but we had lingering issues with Gagne last year and he hasn't seemed to have had any problems since. So long as Briere takes enough time to heal I think he'll have a similar recovery.

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In '02-'03 he only played 14 games for the Sabres because he played 68 for the Coyotes.
Ach....every day I get closer and closer to needing bifocals

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The way it has dragged on this season is disconcerting, sure, but we had lingering issues with Gagne last year and he hasn't seemed to have had any problems since. So long as Briere takes enough time to heal I think he'll have a similar recovery.
Gagne had the whole off-season to recover though...if this were the end of the season and Briere was done until next year, I'd feel a lot better about him coming back. I thought he rushed back the first time as it was. Every time I hear the a player is "ahead of schedule" I always expect a repeat instance. I'd rather see him come back with a couple weeks left in the season and be fully healed for the playoffs than come back "ahead of schedule" and risk tweaking it again.

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Here are the games played (combining NHL plus minors each season) for Brieres career:

94-95: 72 (in QMJHL)
95-96: 67 (in QMJHL)
96-97: 59 (in QMJHL, also played in the world juniors)
97-98: 73
98-99: 79
99-00: 71
00-01: 60
01-02: 78
02-03: 82
03-04: 82
04-05: 36 (lockout - playing for Bern in Swiss-A)
05-06: 48
06-07: 81
07-08: 79
08-09: 9

So basically he has had two big injuries in 15 seasons of hockey. Somebody get this guy a plastic bubble to live in!!!!

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Gagne had the whole off-season to recover though...if this were the end of the season and Briere was done until next year, I'd feel a lot better about him coming back. I thought he rushed back the first time as it was. Every time I hear the a player is "ahead of schedule" I always expect a repeat instance. I'd rather see him come back with a couple weeks left in the season and be fully healed for the playoffs than come back "ahead of schedule" and risk tweaking it again.
Ah, I get ya now. I still have that nagging fear too, but if they're not lying to us (which they very well good be), the last one seems to only be related in that it healed funky. It doesn't seem like the muscle keeps tearing, it just grew back wrong the last time. Not the most encouraging thing, I know, but I'm still holding out hope.

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02-10-2009, 09:35 AM
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He was born in 1977 Moron do the math.

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[QUOTE=EasyMac;17818932]Here are the games played (combining NHL plus minors each season) for Brieres career:

94-95: 72 (in QMJHL)
95-96: 67 (in QMJHL)
96-97: 59 (in QMJHL, also played in the world juniors)
97-98: 73
98-99: 79
99-00: 71
00-01: 60
01-02: 78
02-03: 82
03-04: 82
04-05: 36 (lockout - playing for Bern in Swiss-A)
05-06: 48
06-07: 81
07-08: 79
08-09: 9

So basically he has had two big injuries in 15 seasons of hockey. Somebody get this guy a plastic bubble to live in!!!!

Where is your Logic? he has had two major here in philly last two years not counting Buffalo or Minors.

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Instead we're striving and saying "damn, just think how good we will be when briere comes back".

Dream on, not without some big moves by Homer

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He was born in 1977 Moron do the math.
Which would make him 31, like CannonGoBoom said, not 34 like you said. Perhaps you should learn to do math before calling others morons.

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Which would make him 31, like CannonGoBoom said, not 34 like you said. Perhaps you should learn to do math before calling others morons.


or not call people morons at all.

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