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02-10-2009, 02:01 PM
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I guess you could put me in the "play Ossi" section.

Away look a few posts up. I think he should be with Carle, and Parent should be with Jones.

I think Ossi is better than Alberts, however Alberts does throw his weight around and hit more, which is rare in our dmen right now. But I would still play Ossi over Alberts any day of the week. (Also, I kind like Alberts too)

So in all

Kimmo - Coburn
Ossi - Carle
Parent - Jones.

I think you got your great 1st pairing.
Solid 2nd, with Ossi always covering for Carle's offensive roaming, and same thing with the 3rd paring.
yea, sorry, i didn't see your post. i think you're right all around. with what we have, that would be the best top 6, but as it's been noted, the flyers are sold on alberts - at least up until this point. i was responding more to the whole 'i love parent! ossi should be playing! **** jones!' crowd.

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02-10-2009, 03:11 PM
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So you agree on Ossi being the 7th defenseman? I guess the Jones love is blinding you. Id rather trade him to a team that will play him, then let him play as our seventh. Guy doesnt do shyt wrong and gets sit. Kuks sucked, plain and simple. I was never a Kuks fan, but to say Ossi is as bad as Kuks makes me laugh.
I don't really notice Vaananen a lot, and I think that is good for a defenseman.

44 is clearly top of the heap.

5 has been poor at times but he's got the tools and on the Flyers as managed currently, that means he'll get big minutes.

6 and 25 have offensive upside, and they make a lot of money, so they're going to play.

41 - I dunno, nothing spectacular, nothing horrid. I guess they like his toughness as compared to Vaananen.

77 is the key to Vaananen. They think Parent has 2nd pairing potential (next year) and therefore he's going to play now.

I think one thing to take into account is that the Flyers aren't going to share detailed info with us regarding who plays and who does not. They're not going to say: "We paid big bucks for Jones and therefore he dresses" or "We want to see if Parent can hack it" or "We like Albert's grit compared to Vaananen's".

Dunno if that answers the question. I think Vaananen has looked fine but I can see rationales for him being odd man out and don't understand why anyone would be all upset about it.

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02-10-2009, 03:14 PM
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I hope Ossi is traded to a team who plays him. I also hope he haunts the **** out of us.
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I thought Ossi was of the best moves we made in the offseason, that paid off.
Me, too. He played well while the guy they shelled dough for (Jones) and the guy they see a stalwart future for (Parent) were injured. Now it's time for those fellows to play until they show they can't.

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02-10-2009, 03:45 PM
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Kukkonen has been reassigned to the Phantoms

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02-10-2009, 04:58 PM
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So they're actually trying to get away with calling it a conditioning assignment? Interesting.

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02-10-2009, 06:13 PM
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Dunno if that answers the question. I think Vaananen has looked fine but I can see rationales for him being odd man out and don't understand why anyone would be all upset about it.
Because Randy Jones ****ing sucks and Vaananen doesn't. He's also better than Alberts and I see no difference in their "toughness".

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02-10-2009, 08:33 PM
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Only John Stevens can take the best partner Kimmo has had here in two years, and deem him unworthy of ice time, meanwhile it took the trade of Jim Vandermeer - removing him completely from the organization just over 2 months after trading for him - for Stevens to stop playing him.

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02-10-2009, 09:37 PM
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Because Randy Jones ****ing sucks and Vaananen doesn't. He's also better than Alberts and I see no difference in their "toughness".
i'd rather see ossi played over alberts...the guy is steady but unspectacular which isn't a bad thing for dmen...kinda like offensive linemen, you know they had a good game when you don't hear their name a lot.

alberts has too much therien in him for me...he isn't bad but there are too many nights when he doesn't use his size or play tough enough.

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02-12-2009, 12:20 PM
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Only John Stevens can take the best partner Kimmo has had here in two years, and deem him unworthy of ice time, meanwhile it took the trade of Jim Vandermeer - removing him completely from the organization just over 2 months after trading for him - for Stevens to stop playing him.
Yeah its ridiculous the way he manages these players sometimes....Especially when you consider the fact that everytime I see Carle he is turning over the puck. At this point I think I might move him before Jones.

He has played steady throughout the entire year. Our issues are in the defensive end and Steven's great decision is lets make our steadiest dman the odd man out.

What a genius.

Its simple, Jones or Carle need to be moved or Alberts needs to be moved.

Again, we wouldnt be in this situation if Stevens wasnt so stubborn about playing Kukkonen.

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