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02-17-2009, 07:43 PM
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Kubina to Flyers

With the Flyers in need of a solid physical dman and Kubina looking like he is available what players from philly would it take to get him from Toronto?? id say our 1st and a prospect would do but we need to move salaries to get Kubina back so i doubt our first is involved in this trade.


Lupul Jones/Metro/Vannanen and prospect Maroon?? for Kubina



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02-17-2009, 07:49 PM
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I think your first and a salary dump ( as long as the term is 2yrs or less). You may over rate Kubina a bit in saying a first and a prospect.

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With the Flyers in need of a solid physical dman and Kubina looking like he is available what players from philly would it take to get him from Toronto?? id say our 1st and a prospect would do but we need to move salaries to get Kubina back so i doubt our first is involved in this trade.


Lupul Jones/Metro/Vannanen and prospect Maroon?? for Kubina



Philly defense
Timmonen
Coburn
Carle
Parent
Jones
Alberts
Vannanen
Sbisa
I'd love a 1st and Lupul (Lupul as the dump) ...else a decent prospect to counter Lupul's contract

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02-17-2009, 08:14 PM
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With the Flyers in need of a solid physical dman and Kubina looking like he is available what players from philly would it take to get him from Toronto?? id say our 1st and a prospect would do but we need to move salaries to get Kubina back so i doubt our first is involved in this trade.


Lupul Jones/Metro/Vannanen and prospect Maroon?? for Kubina



Philly defense
Timmonen
Coburn
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Jones
Alberts
Vannanen
Sbisa
If you want a solid physical D-man how about Finger or Van Ryan ( injured but should be back soon ). Might be a cheaper option

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02-17-2009, 08:15 PM
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I'd trade Kubina for 1st + Jones... more salary dump too if you needed it.

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02-17-2009, 08:32 PM
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1st, 3rd and Randy Jones for Kubina (3rd's in there because of Jones)

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02-17-2009, 08:33 PM
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I'd do that. How about Phili fans?

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Lupul and a 3rd would do it for me.

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02-17-2009, 08:38 PM
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With the Flyers in need of a solid physical dman and Kubina looking like he is available what players from philly would it take to get him from Toronto?? id say our 1st and a prospect would do but we need to move salaries to get Kubina back so i doubt our first is involved in this trade.


Lupul Jones/Metro/Vannanen and prospect Maroon?? for Kubina



Philly defense
Timmonen
Coburn
Carle
Parent
Jones
Alberts
Vannanen
Sbisa
flyers give up too much...
1st, jones & metro (need salary going the other way) or just waive metro...maybe add a 4th depending on offers from other teams.

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1st, 3rd and Randy Jones for Kubina (3rd's in there because of Jones)
flyers should do it if that's available...kubina ($5MM) comes off the books the same time coburn & parent are due new contratcs.

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flyers should do it if that's available...kubina ($5MM) comes off the books the same time coburn & parent are due new contratcs.
Lets get the Gm's in the same room

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Lets get the Gm's in the same room
this might be the first consensus between leafs and flyers fans in a long time. someone pop a bottle of champagne or fruit juice to celebrate

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i think if the leafs get phillys first they will need to take more salary from us. i dont see us moving our 1st. if we do we wont have a pick until late third.

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02-17-2009, 08:58 PM
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So what else do we need to take?

Let's get this done? Or perhaps another D? Finger?

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this might be the first consensus between leafs and flyers fans in a long time. someone pop a bottle of champagne or fruit juice to celebrate
give it a few minutes and there will be plenty of flyers fans trashing kubina...i personally like what he brings to a team making a playoff push...reminds me of vladimir malakhov because he may drive you crazy w/ inconsistent play during a long regular season but can step it up in the playoffs.

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So what else do we need to take?

Let's get this done? Or perhaps another D? Finger?
nah they can't take finger's big contract for another few years. I say that from my original proposal of Kubina for 1st, 3rd and Randy Jones:

To Philadelphia:

Pavel Kubina (nough said)

To Toronto:

2009 1st rounder, 2010 2nd rounder, 2009 4th rounder Randy Jones, Mike Rathje

That's taking 6.5 mil off your cap while adding 5 mil in Kubina. Since you don't have a second this year, 2010 2nd rounder and 2009 4th rounder is needed for the Jones and Rathje cap hit

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is this equal or close enough

Philly gets
Kubina


Tor gets
Jones
Metro
Nodl
3rd

if philly was to move their first torontos 2nd would have to come back.

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nah they can't take finger's big contract for another few years. I say that from my original proposal of Kubina for 1st, 3rd and Randy Jones:

To Philadelphia:

Pavel Kubina (nough said)

To Toronto:

2009 1st rounder, 2010 2nd rounder, 2009 4th rounder Randy Jones, Mike Rathje

That's taking 6.5 mil off your cap while adding 5 mil in Kubina. Since you don't have a second this year, 2010 2nd rounder and 2009 4th rounder is needed for the Jones and Rathje cap hit
Think...why do we send Rathje when he doesn't count against our cap anyway?

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Rathje is on LTIR and is done playing hockey so he has no point in this discussion

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is this equal or close enough

Philly gets
Kubina


Tor gets
Jones
Metro
Nodl
3rd

if philly was to move their first torontos 2nd would have to come back.
Toronto doesn't have a 2nd. I don't think Jones or Metropolit have any value to the Leafs, so you'd need more than Nodl and a 3rd to make the deal work, especially with the salary dumps included.

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nah they can't take finger's big contract for another few years. I say that from my original proposal of Kubina for 1st, 3rd and Randy Jones:

To Philadelphia:

Pavel Kubina (nough said)

To Toronto:

2009 1st rounder, 2010 2nd rounder, 2009 4th rounder Randy Jones, Mike Rathje

That's taking 6.5 mil off your cap while adding 5 mil in Kubina. Since you don't have a second this year, 2010 2nd rounder and 2009 4th rounder is needed for the Jones and Rathje cap hit
i don't think rathje makes a difference because he is on LTIR and will stay there forever.

1st, jones, metro, kukonen/alberts/ vaananen & 2ND 2010?

jones, metro, & kuk/alberts/vaananen @ $5MM.

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If Philly has to include their first, I'm pretty sure they won't do it because their first pick would be until the late 3rd round.

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02-17-2009, 09:18 PM
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Think...why do we send Rathje when he doesn't count against our cap anyway?
Rathje's and Jones's contracts run through next year too but if he's done for next year too, my bad

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is this equal or close enough

Philly gets
Kubina


Tor gets
Jones
Metro
Nodl
3rd

if philly was to move their first torontos 2nd would have to come back.
This one gave me a laugh. Why don't we just add our 1st too?

I would expect a 1st and a mid level prospect if a salary dump was coming our way.

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I want none of Pavel Kubina.

Ryan Parent is the answer to our defensive woes for now.

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