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02-19-2009, 11:20 AM
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Philly and Ott Philly and Atl

Philly gets
Volchenko
Vermette

Ottawa gets
Lupul
Carle
Metro
3rd SJ



Philly gets
Lehtonen
Armstrong
1st


Atl gets
JVR
Biron
Jones
1st
3rd Cgy
What does everyone think??


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02-19-2009, 11:21 AM
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Philly gets
Volchenko
Vermette

Ottawa gets
Lupul
Carle
Metro
3rd



Philly gets
Lehtonen
1st
3rd

Atl gets
JVR
Biron
Jones
3rd

What does everyone think??
Hell no as a sens fan.

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02-19-2009, 11:24 AM
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yea no way...volchenkov is un-human...

and vermettes turning it around.

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02-19-2009, 11:24 AM
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I like #2. Dunno about #1, don't watch the sens much.

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Atlanta gets bent over.

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02-19-2009, 11:27 AM
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Why would atlanta give up their first without getting one back? And where are all of these 3rds coming from?

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02-19-2009, 11:29 AM
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Sens get destroyed... no way we give Volch AND Vermie for Lupul and a bunch of crap

ATL gets OWNED, that first rounder can mean Hedman so that cancels out JVR, then they downgrade in nets with Biron, and then they give up a HIGH 3rd for Jones and a LOW 3rd?

hell i would take Hedman/Tavares over JVR

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Absurd trades, both in favor of Philly.

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Your proposals suck

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02-19-2009, 11:36 AM
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Your proposals suck

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02-19-2009, 11:38 AM
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Philly gets
Volchenko
Vermette

Ottawa gets
Lupul
Carle
Metro
3rd



Philly gets
Lehtonen
1st
3rd

Atl gets
JVR
Biron
Jones
3rd

What does everyone think??

Neither trade is that bad or at least as bad as people suggest. Atlanta would give up a first without getting one back because they get JVR. A second overall who should be ready for next year and had 10 points in 6 World Junior games (again).

Vermette for Lupul and then Volchenkov for Carle, Metro and a 3rd. Philly gets the stay at home defender and Ottawa gets the puck moving D they need. I agree that Volchenkov is better at defending than Carle is at rushing but the offset is a 3rd and Metro (not to be underestimated) as he plays all kinds of roles. 1st line, 4th line, penalty kill and wouldn't be terrible at power play either as he is calm and controls the puck well. (Philly has too much firepower for him to see time on pp)

Anyway, it's not all that bad. As a flyers fan I would do the first trade becasue we really need a shutdown guy, but I wouldn't do the second one. JVR is too much of a sure thing and not someone I want to see tear it up (compared to Nash) for another team.

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Neither trade is that bad or at least as bad as people suggest. Atlanta would give up a first without getting one back because they get JVR. A second overall who should be ready for next year and had 10 points in 6 World Junior games.

Vermette for Lupul and then Volchenkov for Carle metro and a 3rd. Philly gets the stay at home defender and Ottawa gets the puck moving D they need. I agree that Volchenkov is better at defending than Carle is at rushing but the offset is a 3rd and Metro (not to be underestimated) He plays all kinds of roles. 1
I should have explained my proposals but you have done a great job so ill leave it with this.

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PRODUCTIVE
I wouldn't call making fantasy proposals on a message board day in and day out a productive activity, either.

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Philly gets
Volchenko
Vermette

Ottawa gets
Lupul
Carle
Metro
3rd SJ



Philly gets
Lehtonen
Armstrong
1st


Atl gets
JVR
Biron
Jones
1st
3rd Cgy
What does everyone think??
Sorry Atlanta does need Biron and we're not giving up on our shot at Tavares in the lottery just yet.

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apaarantley a JVR for Lehtonen swap is in the works, and mark my word...it will not involve ATL's 1st

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I think the 2nd one is pretty bad.

Lehtonen may not be putting up big numbers in Atlanta right now, but with their situation, neither could Broduer. He still have franchise goalie potential.

Lehtonen>Biron+JVR
Armstrong>3rd
1st>Jones, 1st

Atlants gets ripped now and in the future, unless JVR becomes a god.

Lehtonen for JVR, Nittymaki, and something else

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02-19-2009, 11:53 AM
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Neither trade is that bad or at least as bad as people suggest. Atlanta would give up a first without getting one back because they get JVR. A second overall who should be ready for next year and had 10 points in 6 World Junior games (again).

Vermette for Lupul and then Volchenkov for Carle, Metro and a 3rd. Philly gets the stay at home defender and Ottawa gets the puck moving D they need. I agree that Volchenkov is better at defending than Carle is at rushing but the offset is a 3rd and Metro (not to be underestimated) as he plays all kinds of roles. 1st line, 4th line, penalty kill and wouldn't be terrible at power play either as he is calm and controls the puck well. (Philly has too much firepower for him to see time on pp)
I wouldn't trade Vermette for Lupul... because Vermette is very useful when he isn't scoring and Lupul isn't. I don't think that Lupul is any better offensively and I'd hate to pay him 50% more money than Vermette.

Metro and a 3rd do nothing to help our team after Murray spent the past 2 years acquiring as much 4th line talent as possible.

Carle really doesn't do it for us either. We have Lee, Picard, Schubert, Bell, E.Karlsson and other prospects as youngish, offensively talented D-men with little experience. We need a #1 D-man with lots of NHL experience.

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I don't know how anyone can expect Atl's 1st round pick will be #1 or 2 when there are other teams out there who suck just as much. It'll be a pretty close race to the #1 spot not including the wacky lottery.

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No way. Volchenko(v) stays.

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02-19-2009, 12:18 PM
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I think the 2nd one is pretty bad.

Lehtonen may not be putting up big numbers in Atlanta right now, but with their situation, neither could Broduer. He still have franchise goalie potential.

Lehtonen>Biron+JVR
Armstrong>3rd
1st>Jones, 1st

Atlants gets ripped now and in the future, unless JVR becomes a god.

Lehtonen for JVR, Nittymaki, and something else
You are insane. JVR is being compared to Nash. What's Lehtonen compared to? I know Dipietro because of his injuries and Nittymaki for play.

Lehtonen for Biron+Jones
Armstrong, we don't want him and there has been no talk of him till you brought him up.
1st for Lupul + 1st

My point = No way in @#%$ are you getting JVR.

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apaarantley a JVR for Lehtonen swap is in the works, and mark my word...it will not involve ATL's 1st
Apparently it was made by Dreger who holds as much water as Eklund around here.

Mark my words, it will not involve JVR.

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You are insane. JVR is being compared to Nash. What's Lehtonen compared to? I know Dipietro because of his injuries and Nittymaki for play.

Lehtonen for Biron+Jones
Armstrong, we don't want him and there has been no talk of him till you brought him up.
1st for Lupul + 1st

My point = No way in @#%$ are you getting JVR.
This whole post is funny.

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JVR is being compared to Nash.
If that was true, he would be playing in the NHL right now. He couldn't even beat out Giroux, so what does that say about his talent.

I am not saying JVR isn't going to be a very good NHL winger, but lets not go comparing him to a guy like Nash.

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The combination of this:
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You are insane.
... plus this:
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JVR is being compared to Nash. What's Lehtonen compared to? I know Dipietro because of his injuries and Nittymaki for play.

Lehtonen for Biron+Jones
Armstrong, we don't want him and there has been no talk of him till you brought him up.
1st for Lupul + 1st

My point = No way in @#%$ are you getting JVR.
is actually pretty damn funny.

btw: I've read some old dude comparing his girl to a summer's day. Turns out, she wasn't actually a summer's day. (Lasted longer, too.) Good for him.

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If that was true, he would be playing in the NHL right now. He couldn't even beat out Giroux, so what does that say about his talent.

I am not saying JVR isn't going to be a very good NHL winger, but lets not go comparing him to a guy like Nash.
The Flyers wanted him go come out of UNH and play, JVR wanted to go back to school and go back to the world juniors. So saying something like he couldn't beat out Giroux is completely incorrect, and shows you don't really know much about him.

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