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08-20-2004, 04:37 AM
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Which would you prefer?

A lot of people complain about the low scoring in the NHL these day's which leads me to an interesting question. What would you prefer for this upcoming season?

1) The Oilers win their division, finishing in the top 5 overall for points. But, they also finish last in goals for, playing a stifling defensive system resulting in what most fan's would call unexciting hockey.

or

2) The Oilers miss the playoffs barely, after an exciting finish, and, finish tops in the league in goals for, having played super exciting to watch run n gun hockey. Hard hitting, lots of goals for both teams, and all around a great show.

Now, on first thought, I think most people would probably pick option 1, but if you actually think about it, do you think you'd actually really want to watch the games? I know I'm going quite extreme in my examples, as it would be pretty hard to finish top 5 in points, but still be last in goals so don't get hung up on that detail, was just using it to emphasize the point.

EDIT: Um... kinda goofed, but the second choice there is supposed to be "Choice #2". I'm sure everyone would've figured that out, but just thought I'd clarify that. And almost forgot to mention, the poll is public. Just the way I always make them, I like seeing who chooses what.


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08-20-2004, 05:03 AM
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another Minnesota? no thanks

always didn't like those games, watching Ottawa made me fall asleep one night, the 1st period was that boring

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08-20-2004, 05:13 AM
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It looks like a poll of the 20's in Italy: you only have "choice 1"...

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08-20-2004, 10:12 AM
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as much as i want the oilers to win and succeed (and trust me its lots ).... at the end of the day, i watch hockey to be entertained, and that means fast paced, hard hitting hoecky, hopefully with a fair amount of goals as well..... my perfect game is 4-3 with lots of hitting, up and down action and maybe throw in a couple fights

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08-20-2004, 10:17 AM
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It's so hard. I can't decide if I want choice #1 or choice #1. I'll get back to you.

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Definatly fast paced, hard hitting, high scoring hockey. Every goalie in the league should have a GAA of no better than 4. Toss in a two fight minimum per game.

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08-20-2004, 11:32 AM
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I assume the second Choice #1 is supposed to be Choice #2.

I voted Choice #1.

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08-20-2004, 11:48 AM
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I don't think there is any doubt... choice #2.

I watch hockey to be entertained... winning isn't entertaining, on ice action is entertaining.

Winning is just nice for bragging rights.

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Choice #1. Its all about winning. If it isn't why bother.

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08-20-2004, 12:06 PM
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Choice #1. Its all about winning. If it isn't why bother.
Ditto...number 1 . I want the hockey to be entertaining but missing the playoffs last year after the exciting run did not do it for me.

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The league isn't trying to increase scoring because teams aren't winning. They're doing it because people aren't interested in boring, defence-minded, trapping hockey. I voted choice #1 (the 2nd one).

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I might be the only one, but I don't really find the trap all that boring. No it's no firewagon hockey, but let's face it, the Oilers didn't really play firewagon hockey a ton last year. MacT had them in a defensive posture through February on pretty well every game. I don't think anybody felt the Oilers were boring - albiet it wasn't a trap as much as it was a 1-2-2 backcheck.

Even still, I don't find the Devils a boring team. Maybe the extreme (Wild and Canes) are boring, but that's about it.

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08-20-2004, 12:32 PM
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Choice #2 for me as well.

Though I think it is a bit of a myth that trap=success. It depends on the makeup of your team, but generally speaking its not true IMO.

Most teams outchance opposition at a better clip when they are trailing by a goal and playing a bit more assertively.

I mean if you're Minny, and you know that every line on your team will probably get outscored on the season, even if your goalie stands on his head ... except for whatever line Gaborik is on ... then you probably don't have much choice but to play uber-conservative and keep the scores low. But a lot of teams (most notably OTT, probably N.J as well) would likely do better if they played more of a pressure game.

From a team POV ... if you've got the right type of players (speed and size) you'll do better if you let them skate and cycle IMO. The only downside I can see (and granted, it is a big one) is that the players stats end up higher than with playing a passive system with zone-defence in neutral ice ... so salary control becomes an issue.

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08-20-2004, 01:18 PM
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To me its about results if it means making the playoffs then go ahead play the trap. I think Edmonton should play suffacating defense during parts of a game because Edmonton has laxed D as it is.

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08-20-2004, 03:43 PM
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I assume the second Choice #1 is supposed to be Choice #2.

I voted Choice #1.
Damn you people that didn't read my correction in my post

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08-20-2004, 04:21 PM
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The reason why I cheer for the Oilers is because I love watching their hockey. Good, bad or otherwise, I am usually entertained.

If I wanted to watch a boring team that always wins, I would cheer for the Devils.

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08-20-2004, 04:25 PM
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I can't believe so many people are voting for the 1st option. This is hockey folks!!! The Oilers play the game the way it should be played. If everygame was Ducks - Wild would you really watch? I wouldn't. There are plenty of other sports to watch instead.

Oilers hockey before anything else. Who cares how often we win if you don't enjoy watching them do it? I would rather watch us lose a heartbreaker in OT then sit bored for 3 hours. At least Oilers hockey get the juices pumping.

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08-20-2004, 04:38 PM
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It looks like a poll of the 20's in Italy: you only have "choice 1"...
That's priceless, IO. :lol

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I can't believe so many people are voting for the 1st option. This is hockey folks!!! The Oilers play the game the way it should be played. If everygame was Ducks - Wild would you really watch? I wouldn't. There are plenty of other sports to watch instead.
I can't believe so many are choosing the second. What kinda fans are we if we don't care whether our team wins, as long as they play entertaining.

Like someone else said, if trap means winning the cup, then play trap. Who doesn't like it, tough cheese.

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I can't believe so many are choosing the second. What kinda fans are we if we don't care whether our team wins, as long as they play entertaining.

Like someone else said, if trap means winning the cup, then play trap. Who doesn't like it, tough cheese.
So you are telling me that you can shell out $60/ticket just to sit there and wait until the final score to determine if you were entertained or happy.

If I was a player, I would do whatever it takes... but I am not a player, I am a fan, a fan of hockey... not just a fan of the end result of the hockey, but the whole process. If all you care about is the final score, is there any real point to watching the game?

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So you are telling me that you can shell out $60/ticket just to sit there and wait until the final score to determine if you were entertained or happy.

If I was a player, I would do whatever it takes... but I am not a player, I am a fan, a fan of hockey... not just a fan of the end result of the hockey, but the whole process. If all you care about is the final score, is there any real point to watching the game?
Well said, I was about to reply to his post saying pretty much the same thing. Hockey is in the entertainment business. It's like watching a really slow, boring movie, with bad lighting, bad story, bad acting, but the good guy wins in the end. Personally, I won't make it that far to see if he does or not. VS, an excellent, exciting movie, with great story, effects, acting, everything, but in the end the bad guy wins. I'd personally much rather watch that movie.

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So you are telling me that you can shell out $60/ticket just to sit there and wait until the final score to determine if you were entertained or happy.

If I was a player, I would do whatever it takes... but I am not a player, I am a fan, a fan of hockey... not just a fan of the end result of the hockey, but the whole process. If all you care about is the final score, is there any real point to watching the game?
I expect the team I follow to do everything it takes to win. If that is trap, then YES, I am willing to watch a 1-0 win where shots are 13-11, rather than a 10-8 loss with 55-49 shots on goal.

Sports is about #1)winning, #2)everything else.

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Eep.. I voted option 1 but I meant to click on option 2.

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Choice #1. if you constantly miss the playoffs, and have no success, i'll support the team no matter what, weather there the best or worst, i'd just prefer to have something to cheer for. i'd risk giving up the current style of Oiler hockey, if it meant a better chance at bringing in another Oiler dynasty & getting Lord Stanley's cup back in the city of champs.

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I expect the team I follow to do everything it takes to win. If that is trap, then YES, I am willing to watch a 1-0 win where shots are 13-11, rather than a 10-8 loss with 55-49 shots on goal.

Sports is about #1)winning, #2)everything else.
Ok, interesting point. If I may ask then, why are you a fan of Edmonton then? We don't play a trap system and there are a lot of more successful teams that do, like the Devils. What drew you to the Oilers and what keeps you there? It obviously isn't the entertaining style of play that most fans would use to explain their devotion to a team that hasn't gone far in the playoffs for over a decade.

What keeps you cheering for the Oilers then?

I agree that sports is about winning. But it is about entertainment as well. I don't watch the Expos or Jays even if they are playing well. They may win, but who wants to watch it?

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