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02-21-2009, 10:47 PM
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I don'T understand why this thread is not renames

Habs pseudo scandal

Or

Montreal media's tentative at brewing a scandal

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You know something ? You're aces in my book. I have my youngest going off to university in the fall, I'd point out this post as something to emulate and admire long before anyone who has enough status to get into a club.
thanks mcphee, glad someone else agrees with me

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02-21-2009, 11:52 PM
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I was angry like anyone else about the hype surrounding the "scandal". But if we go on a victory stretch and all those allegations, gossips, etc actually bring the team together and make the players thinks a little bit more about their on-ice issues and calm down the off-ice party, do we actually have to hate the buzz surrounding the team during the last few days or not ? I'm kind of confuse.

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I was angry like anyone else about the hype surrounding the "scandal". But if we go on a victory stretch and all those allegations, gossips, etc actually bring the team together and make the players thinks a little bit more about their on-ice issues and calm down the off-ice party, do we actually have to hate the buzz surrounding the team during the last few days or not ? I'm kind of confuse.
Yes... This has killed our chances of even dreaming about acquiring LeCavalier (whom I'm not hot and bothered about acquiring) if we wait for his NTC to come into effect

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02-22-2009, 12:01 AM
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Schooner, this code you're talking about made sports journalism look like a petty form of journalism. Go ask MAG (whom I like a lot as a journalist) if he's not sometimes view as a lesser sort of journalist because he covers hockey? Far too long, guys like Jacques Beauchamp and Red Fisher were playing dual games with the teams, hiding info because they were too close for comfort to the players or the organisation. That's not journalism. That's conflict of interest. And ever since guys like Ghislain Luneau (God bless his soul) have started to look less like ******, sports journalism in this province has looked more profesionnal. You, as a fan, might not like stories like this one (and I'm pretty sure there's more to it than what was published), but the fact of the matter is: this is a business now, not just a sport. And it should be treated just like any other business.
I can't believe you used the word "professional" to describe Sports Journalism in this province. I also can't believe you called it "journalism", because it's not.

The previous poster had it right.

The sports media in this province is nothing but tabloid garbage. A bunch of tampon journalism.

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02-22-2009, 12:52 AM
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I don'T understand why this thread is not renames

Habs pseudo scandal

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Montreal media's tentative at brewing a scandal
hahaha, I like how you add some french words here and there

switch renames for renamed and tentative for attempt and you're in business

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I talked to a guy at work who has ties to a gang family in Nova Scotia.
OMG.

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based on the logic of your post, players are giving crime figures credit cards to go purchasing items, those items are then resold to go fund illicit activities and substances?
absurd

it is far easier to just give / withdraw someone some cash to just go do it. withdrawal that is traced can be vaguely explained away as anything.


these cards also probably had a limit, something these millionaires...could care less about...but ultimately didn't dent their accounts.
Sorry you don't like it, that doesn't change the fact that it is a common procedure.

Why is it so absurd? Are they jusy whitdrawing money? Bying stuff for themselves or for gifts? Re-selling or not? That's not what's important here. The point is that people still pay for their "drugs-prostitues-whatever" without any proof of "money-for-anything-illegal" transaction. It can't be any pursuit since it becomes almost impossible to proove anything. What my friends confirmed is that when they're facing such situtation, they immediatly investigate since it is a sign. But not a proof at all.

And when you're talking about limit, I don't get your point. Limit is irrelevent if you pay the bill every month, which is the whole idea.

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02-22-2009, 08:10 AM
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hahaha, I like how you add some french words here and there

switch renames for renamed and tentative for attempt and you're in business
Well,renames was a typo

the tentative was a pure false cognate mistake

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I was angry like anyone else about the hype surrounding the "scandal". But if we go on a victory stretch and all those allegations, gossips, etc actually bring the team together and make the players thinks a little bit more about their on-ice issues and calm down the off-ice party, do we actually have to hate the buzz surrounding the team during the last few days or not ? I'm kind of confuse.
I agree. I don't like how everything was handled, I think some reaction was honest, some guys reacted to mis-information , a lot of others wanted the worst to happen, and I don't like that. It puts us all in a polarized position that gets tiresome.

The other part of all this is that this a team with more young single guys than most, and acting like nothing out of the ordinary has happened would be wrong. This isn't the 1st time in hockey history that stuff has gone on that many would find distasteful, there are quite a few hall of famers that have had their legal issues and it seems that good stats make us forget easier.

The on ething to keep in mind is that mob guys can involve themselves with players for a lot of reasons, but if there's a hint of trying to get an 'in' for betting reasons, players don't get a 2nd chance. Even a vague hint, and you'll see careers end.

The NHL won't ban a guy for criminal reasons, Danton would get a chance if he can play at some point, Tibbits had numerous chances after sexual assault charges, but if you are even suspected of influencing an outcome, it's game over. Hanging around with this element is about the best way to get caught in this stuff, so I wouldn't dismiss this stuff as harmless folly.

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I talked to a guy at work who has ties to a gang family in Nova Scotia.
OMG.
Go straight to jail. Do not pass go. Do not collect 200 dollars.

 
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Go straight to jail. Do not pass go. Do not collect 200 dollars.
damn, out your way, $200 is worth about 6 hookers, red headed ones too.

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damn, out your way, $200 is worth about 6 hookers, red headed ones too.
Maybe in the maritimes...


They're much more expensive in Montreal. Trust me on this one.

 
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Maybe in the maritimes...


They're much more expensive in Montreal. Trust me on this one.
You get what you pay for Chezz-O, old buddy.

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You get what you pay for Chezz-O, old buddy.
Ugh..the hairs on the back of my neck just stood up.

 
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You know something ? You're aces in my book. I have my youngest going off to university in th efall, I'd point out this post as something to emulate and admire long before anyone who has enough status to get into a club.
I'm with you mcphee, possibly post of the year; should be stickied. Well said Ape Clutch.

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I've already completely forgotten about this scandal.

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I saw my mom go to Cégep and my dad to U of M (then later U of Ottawa) even though both already had University degrees? Why because they came from Haïti! and guess what? They got their Canadian degrees and did so without having to go on welfare, worked everyday of their life, very hard raising 3 teenagers. Left a comfortable financial situation in Haïti to become basically High Schoolers in Quebec just so I could get a head start in this country.

So now that I'm in University (I wonder where I learned that education was important) and I think stuff is getting hard. I remember that my parents did this while raising children, so I suck it up and work hard. My parents are MY role models!

I wish parents stopped trying to say "Oh my child what is he going to think, these guys are role models". Enough with that drivel. These guys are entertainers, that's it that's all. They were all given an immense talent and are being payed to display it on the ice for OUR entertainment/enjoyment. It is NOT their job or responsibility to be a role model for your child.

That responsibility lies with you!
This post is perfect. Very, very well done.

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This post is perfect. Very, very well done.
and to think I used to criticize him for his gratuitous use of the letter z.

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I've already completely forgotten about this scandal.
you were drunk last night.

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Maybe in the maritimes...


They're much more expensive in Montreal. Trust me on this one.
Gotta second this. You're not getting 6 hookers in Montreal for $200.

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So, how isn't everybody in prison yet?

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So, how isn't everybody in prison yet?
If you were a police officer and you were told to arrest a habs player, would you do it?
If you were a prosecutor and you had to prove a habs was guilty of a crime, would you do it?
If you were a judge, would you sentence a habs player?

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If you were a police officer and you were told to arrest a habs player, would you do it? Yes, because these guys are supposed to do whatever their mandates ask them to
If you were a prosecutor and you had to prove a habs was guilty of a crime, would you do it? Yes because this is the whole point of the profession
If you were a judge, would you sentence a habs player? Yes because a Judge need to be just and unbiased or they lose their jobs pretty fast

ridiculour arguments there

IIRC, they did arrest O'Byrne and Kostopoulos

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